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Why Isn't Yao THE DOMINANT Player in the NBA?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by arnie, Jan 14, 2004.

  1. arnie

    arnie Member

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    Efficientcy rating

    23. 18.78

    :(

    Point Leaders

    50. 15.3

    :(

    Rebound Leaders

    18. Yao Ming (Houston Rockets) 8.9

    :(

    Field goal percentage

    6. .510

    :D


    Blocks per game

    16. 1.83

    :p



    For his size and talent, He should be in the top 10 in most categories? He has such a advantage over most centers in the league.

    What's going on?
     
  2. RocketForever

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    Lets look on the bright side.

    We have a second year player who is in the top 20 of three of the important categories. And everyone is saying that this second year player is not playing even close to his abilities and that he can be much much better than what we are seeing.

    Do you feel more optimistic now?
     
  3. JBIIRockets

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    is this arnie from Lakersground.net? if so, nice to have you here. :)
     
  4. gasnapalm

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    look at his FGA per game hes the rockets 3rd option basicly
     
  5. redgoose

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    Doesn't know how to play aggresive w/o getting called for fouls
    Can't post up
    Too skinny
    Has no stamina
    He's too slow
     
  6. fietguy

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    well if you are only going to look at stats...

    it will be difficult for any people to be reach top ten if he is benched in the fourth quarter...

    yao plays bad, he gets benched in the fourth

    yao plays good, he gets benched in the fourth

    this is a catch 22...

    look for yao's stats to improve but valuing yao only on stats and not the intangibles he brings to the team is not accurate
     
  7. dfbreyes

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    With the Rockets having had won at least two championships with MVP superstar Hakeem Olajuwon, it is quite easy to try comparing number #1 picks the Rockets got and the performance.

    Hakeem OLAJUWON - two championships, great play against MVP David Robinson in the 1995 Western Conference finals, lightning quick moves on the post, great footwork...undoubtedly the most prominent Houston Rocket to have played so far. INIMITABLE.

    Ralph SAMPSON - seven four forward with guard like tendencies, very talented, could put up monster number too like Hakeem although injuries were to curb his career, eventually traded for Eric Floyd and Joe Barry Carroll, but still was a key figure in Houston aka the TWIN TOWERS

    NOW:

    Yao MING - can't help but compare really. He's a number one pick as well. Has the size indeed. Does not possess muscular upper body, although has had a 20point and 20 rebound performance, is still very slow getting his shot off. Can get blocked by the likes of Andrei Kirilenko, and lately has had problems getting in early foul trouble. Must play aggressive even if he has five fouls. Must learn to dunk like a gorilla, or just plain get mean. Until the Rockets make the playoffs and actually win one series at least, the verdict on Yao - choosing him as #1 pick is still out.

    MY OPINION:

    Until Yao Ming proves himself, I'd take a young Hakeem Olajuwon over a young Yao Ming. I'm still a rocket fan. If only we could clone Hakeem Olajuwon.
     
  8. Jallen

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    Yao needs stable 35 minutes per game. and he's supposed to get on court in the fourth. JVG has not grasped the point that how to make Yao play his own rhythm.
     
  9. arkoe

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    Normally in a thread like this I would mock Yao, but the boy did well last night, so I'm going to lay off.
     
  10. BiGGieStuFF

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    He needs to be put down on his butt more often. I think he was really embarassed last night by being put down by brendan haywood and came back with some fire.

    My idea. Have a teammate inadvertently elbow Yao in the gut witha sharp elbow. That should get his juices flowing.

    J/K. At this point I'm not going to expect too much out of Yao. It's taken me this long to realize that he's still a project in work and will take some time to reach his full potential. I just hope it's sooner than later.

    :D
     
  11. nyquil82

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    i think we would need a scoring PF before we can really see yao shine. often times, the opponent will not be shy to double yao with or without the ball, because Cato is usually an offensive liability and yao is still too fresh to be reliable in double teams.

    From what i saw last night, yao plays better defensively with Cato by his side, and plays much better offensively with MoT on his side. which combonation do you think van gundy prefers?

    a significant reason why we won last night was that Cato actually scored and made those jumpers and put backs. If he can be consistent with that he might be able to avoid a trade, at this point i think its either him or mo taylor.
     
  12. bottlerocket

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    Even though Yao isn't putting up big numbers teams still have to respect his ability to score, block, & change shots. That is something we haven't had for a while at that position. I think we should Yao a little slack. It his 2nd year and a new coach, this is still a learning experience. Eventually the game will come to Yao. I can say this b/c you can see glimpses of greatness in him.
     
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    being the first option for yao will require him to have a oxygen tank on his back to get sufficient oxygen inot his system
     
  14. Yetti

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    If the Playmaker was realy taking care of his Center then it would look much better. The Team plays with a lack of Team Chemistry, without it Yao Ming wont get as fair crack of the whip. Also Yao Ming isnt an under the Basket type of Center. Just watch the realy good Games that he has and see how he plays away from the Basket.
     
  15. KALIKULI

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    Then why is he rated by some sports web like CBS sports as no.2 among the Center in the League. Chill out, he will come around.
     
  16. arnie

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    Yes its me from Lakersground. :)

    It thought about posting it there but no one there watches the Rockets on a regular basis, this might be a better spot for it.

    Looking at the Rockets from the outside, it just didn't make any sense to me why Yao is doing so-so.

    He's just so damn Tall with talent to boot.

    Is he getting the ball enough from his point guard?
     
  17. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Yao is getting 15 and 10 without playing agressive. That is rare in the nba. There's a lot of potential there.
     
  18. GATER

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    Any one who thinks Yao doesn't dominate should stop reading the stats sheet and start watching a few games with a critical eye. Look at the way his presence on the floor entirely changes what the other team does...double team him without the ball (fronting) and missing shots trying to avoid getting one blocked.

    The guy has mad fundamentals, a great shooting touch, an incredible personality and is only in his second NBA season after coming to us from a league where Alex Scales made the All Star team. He's not Olajuwon. Outside of Shaq and Duncan and maybe Garnett, who is?
     
  19. Bobliu

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    Is it an indicator for Yao being dominant that the Rox lead the league in opponent scoring? Yao's defensive presence probably is more important than his scoring and rebounding numbers.

    I saw a few of Rox games, Yao is far less aggressive to get the rebounds than most of the top rebounders on the defensive end. You hardly see him positioning himself and getting to the ball (rather than waiting for the ball coming to him), especially when one of his teammates is in the neighborhood ...

    Glad yo see you here, Arnie. Thought I was the only Lakerground member lurking around here
     
  20. MFW2310

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    Cuz he's a p***y.
     

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