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Trump Kicking Legal Immigrants Out of Army to Deny Citizenship

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Jul 6, 2018.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Not sure I understand the screen shots... Is he claiming only 40 kids have separated and not the thousands the government has reported?
     
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    That 12 year old Pakistani drug runner. The disturbing thing is the lack of explanation to recruits. I'll also note, these delays seem to have been going on during Obama administration which are now becoming discharges.
     
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    Hypothetical example????

    So are you saying the US army has drug runners in it or that's just a hypothetical example?
     
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    OK, I understand the reference now...
     
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    At least some Republicans have an ounce of integrity left
     
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    Its amazing that Liberals are so bad at seizing on these political softballs. Fact is Trump is weakening our military. He's anti-defense, and should be labeled as such.

    -trying to gut the VA
    -deporting veterans
    -shaming veteran hero's and POW's
    -draft dodger

    See.... Democrats. Military hater Trump. Repeat.... Military Hater Trump.... Repeat.... Repeat.... Repeat.

    This is what the Republicans do to you guys. This is an easy one, and everyone should hear anytime they turn on the News... Military Hater Trump.
     
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    Any time they are brought up, Trump supporters just deflect. They have a great talent for ignoring any fact they don't like.
     
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    I no longer think they are trying
    They are in Cohoots with Trump
    Only acting as the opposition to control the opposition

    Rocket River
     
  11. plutoblue11

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    Didn't he say that he wanted to increase number all the way up to 80 k from 68K?
     
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    Nothing matters, they are team players and Trump could murder someone with a gun and it wouldn't affect him and his stance. He can get away with anything. Liberals can't seize these softballs because the the right doesn't care.

    The only thing Trump can't do is support immigration of non-white people.
     
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    That’s not how propaganda works. You are trying to repeat over and over again so that the non observant consumer that just hears it as background noise over and over again until it gets brought up and they say “isn’t he anti-military”?

    This is for the liberals and so-called independents who don’t watch the news and only care about the Cowboys game on Sunday. It’s not about converting the cult members already drinking the Kool aide.

    Democrats just don’t realize how many people avoid politics at all costs but still can be exposed to it and influenced by it subliminally. The right does this masterfully (how many people do you know that hated Hillary but couldn’t tell you one policy position they disagreed with of hers?) and unfortunately the left needs to learn it or they’ll continue to lose elections over and over again. I hate propaganda tactics but you have to counter the other side somehow.
     
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    How many people who are not solidly on the right like Trump?

    Bottom line is that the tax cut which in a daylight savings like move makes people's paycheck a little bigger now (until they realize they will pay more in tax when they file) is getting them to vote Republican. Because people care about their pocket books number 1, and that's what the left doesn't understand.

    When people say it's the economy stupid, they really mean it's my wallet dumb dumb.
     
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    They are rapists from **** hole countries. People are saying.
     
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    Not surprised Sweet Lou would post fake news. I have to wonder though if he was simply duped or if he knew it to be fake and misleading and was complicit in spreading it.

    News flash. Not everyone who applies for admittance to the US military (and to this specific pilot program) is accepted. It's not a participation trophy. There are standards.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ort-of-abrupt-discharge-of-immigrant-recruits

    The AP report said some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship were being “abruptly discharged,” with no notice or explanation.

    “The notification that they have not been accepted into the program is their notice,” said Maj. Carla M. Gleason, a Pentagon spokesperson. “There has been no change in policy.”

    Gleason said the Pentagon has been methodically working through the backlog of applications of potential recruits who were waiting to be vetted and were on a delayed entry status.

    As of April the number was roughly 1,100, some of whom were training or assigned to units pending final disposition of their applications.

    What’s happening now is some potential recruits are being notified that they have been rejected based on the background checks or failure to meet some other qualification, such as having legal status in the U.S.
     
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    WashingtonExaminer is not a legit source. You need to post a legit source of news, not a right-wing publication.

    You guys on the right have to understand something - only people on the right believe right-wing news sources. The remaining 65% of the country take the AP as a credible source.
     
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    Spicifically which part of the Examiners report do you consider wrong or some type of misrepresentation?
     
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    And a Defense Department spokesperson said an Associated Press report published on Thursday “mischaracterized” how the Pentagon has handled recruits whose applications were still pending when the pilot program was ended in September of 2017.

    The AP report said some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship were being “abruptly discharged,” with no notice or explanation.

    “The notification that they have not been accepted into the program is their notice,” said Maj. Carla M. Gleason, a Pentagon spokesperson. “There has been no change in policy.”​

    After reading the AP report and this Washington Examiner article, I don’t really see an inconsistency. The AP report goes into more details on the sort of things that some of these people were failing their background check over, and gets their perspective on it. The Washington Examiner article doesn’t bother with this, and presents the response from some Pentagon spokespeople.

    I don’t see fake news on either side.
     
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    nice try. Post a link to a legit source and we can talk. Just like you don't count the Huffington Post as legit neither is the Washington examiner
     

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