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Capela- Qualifying offer or signing him long term?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jayfree, Jul 5, 2018.

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Which is better for the Rockets

  1. Qualifying offer to Capela

    16 vote(s)
    10.0%
  2. 4 year in the range of $56 mil

    144 vote(s)
    90.0%
  1. jayfree

    jayfree Member

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    Which is better for the Rockets overall: A qualifying offer of around $4.7 mil for Capela or signing him for around 4 year $56 mil?

    On one hand the Qualifying offer would allow Houston to avoid paying too much this season and may still get him at a discount rate next season. On the other hand I feel Capela may bolt or we have to pay him a max contract.

    Paying him a 4 year $14 mill per right now would lock him up, save us money but add to our payroll for the next 4 years.

    If you were Capela- would you even sign a 4 year $56 mil contract or take your chances. Keep in mind after the $4.7 this year he would have to sign at least a 3 yr $17 mil contract to equal to the difference after the season.
     
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  2. Aruba77

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    Capela can still get better. He needs to develop a stronger post game and he needs to develop a jumpshot. If he can do both those things he'll be a max player. Until then he's closer to Julius Randel level.
     
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  3. sealclubber1016

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    He won't take a long term well below market deal.

    I would go 4 56 and not even hesitate.
     
  4. s3ts

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    For the asset man that is Morey, he's obv going to want the value of Capela locked down to a very favorable deal (4-yr contract).

    He's not going to be a Rocket for long, I'd imagine.
     
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  5. YOLO

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    That offer is a great value for CC. He's worth it for this team. A high iq big like him is not easily replaceable despite what some may think
     
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  6. jayfree

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    I woudn't be surprised if he added a simi-jump shot this summer. He has the makings of a player that can adapt and be serviceable on the court (and not just a defensive presence). I think Capela could be a long time center for this team that could keep a good run going for us. Max deal right now, no but something in the 4 year $15-$20 mill a year range, yes!
     
  7. topfive

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    Seriously, we're still at the "Morey sees his players as assets" stage? After the Pels refused to give Boogie a nice contract? After the Lakers didn't bother trading for PG13 last year because they were certain he'd come as a FA this year? After the Lakers/Rockets/Hawks/Hornets/Nets dump Dwight?

    Players ARE assets. They're not friends or family members. Ideally, you create an environment that makes them want to be on your team, but the day a GM starts treating players as friends is the beginning of the end for that franchise. The NBA is a business, and the best GMs recognize this, rather than trying overlooking it because they'd rather be good guys.
     
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  8. bilaal14

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    I’m thinking... since Capella is young and never seen big money before we will sign....

    I’m hoping it’s 4 years $48 million deal. PO 4th year. Just so he can opt out and make more money if he out plays his contract. Good deal for the Rockets. Would might $56 million either. But hopes it’s the $48 mil. Lol

    That would be a good get.

    He prolly doesn’t sign the qualifying offer and risk injury.
     
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  9. DrNuegebauer

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    Great thread....

    Which is better for the Rockets?
    2 options:

    a) getting him really cheap for 4 years?
    b) having him disgruntled and taking the QO and potentially walking?


    Ummmm.... hard time deciding what to choose ;)
     
  10. s3ts

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    I don't know who you're pissed at, you ended up reiterating my point. And I'm not even b****ing about Morey, I can't. He's executive of the yr.
     
  11. Vivi

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    56M in 4 years would be a steal for us, but i don't think he'll sign that, maybe 72/80M in 4 years.

    Anyway i don't even know why there's so much talk about the qo scenario (and people actually voting for it), that would be a disaster for us, super risky at best.
     
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    I'm glad that some of you guys aren't a part of the negotiations with Capela. $14 mill a year? $12 mill a year?? If Morey threw that out there Capela would be like

    "F*** you, where's that Qualifying Offer sheet?"
     
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  13. CDrex

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    4/$56M would be an absolute robbery. Clint is still seeking 4/$110M. I'd be perfectly happy to give him 4/$80M, but not much above that.

    Him taking the QO would be a loss for the Rockets in every possible scenario. It's just that it's possible caving to a $110 million contract might be a bigger loss.
     
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    I believe and have believed since the season started that Clint and the Rockets already had a plan in place..... Clint seems like a really smart guy along the Morey lines...... I feel like there were several scenarios given to Clint . Now Clint may have been sad because of which one has played out.......


    I believe the QO may just be a ruse by the 2 because things get so much better next year right?
     
  15. anchel

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    I would be happy right now with 4/95.
     
  16. Vivi

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    Can we offer a 5th year though?
     
  17. sealclubber1016

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    Pretty much, some people still seem to think 15 million is some massive number that should be reserved for superstars, it isn't. Hassan Whiteside, Deandre Jordan, Steven Adams and Gobert are making 24 million. Tristan f**king Thompsan and Enes Kanter are making 17 million.

    We have absolutely no reason to offer him more than 10 million or so right now, nor does he have a reason to take such a gross undervalue based on market. Ultimately I think we will meet somewhere in the middle. We up our offer to get him to sign for 2 or 3 years. Gives him a large sum of safety money, we lock him up for these important years, and he still has a chance to get a fat payday afterwards. Say 2 years/30 million
     
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  18. steddinotayto

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    Or even a 4 year $64 million offer with a player option on the 4th year. At least that way he can re-enter free agency still in his prime. All of this $12 million a year talk .....these are the same people that b****ed and moan about Ariza getting $15 million.
     
  19. Bobsputin

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    I like the idea. Just no PO. Rockets try to avoid POs, unless your a start (see Goran Dragic).

    I think signing him longer removes the butt-hurt feelings from only doing a short term deal on the cheap.
     
  20. saleem

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    The Rockets don't have to cave into anything. Capela is a RFA. No one has offered him a big contract. 14 M a yr is just great. He isn't worth 20 M a yr. He has a long way to prove that he is worth it. If he takes the QO, then so be it.
     
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