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[Official] Astros @ Rangers

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Jul 3, 2018.

  1. BMoney

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    That was a dominant Ken Giles save, eh? Good for him.
     
  2. Houstunna

    Houstunna Mr Graphix
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    Giles serves it 1-2-3.... Easy like ABC
     
  3. tmactoyao

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    you guys were really nervous about Odor-Chirinos-Gallo? lmao Giles mows down those bums with ease
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Except that it does. The Astros shifting saves more runs that had they not shifted. Folks seem to only remember the bleeders that leak through the left side and tend to forget all the rockets up the middle that get turned into routine outs or DPs. Did you see the shot right to Bregman when he was the only defender on the left side?

    If the Astros metrics showed things were worse when they shifted, they wouldn't shift.
     
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  5. Nook

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    McHugh earned that win.

    He now has given up 4 earned runs in 40 innings this year.
     
  6. seemoreroyals

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    Damn Giles I am impressed. Our 2 headed closer routine is working pretty good. Great job for the bullpen in general and to Colin McCugh for putting us in position to win this game.
     
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  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Once again, Giles "escapes" the inning and gets a save.
     
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  8. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Another poster who has yet to watch Giles in a save situation. 12/12 with 0 earned runs and 7 base runners.
     
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  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Why would you assume a closer who has yet to blow a save and has the highest save percentage in the AL in the 2017/2018 regular seasons and has yet to give up a run in a save situation would blow a save?
     
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    I thought McHugh was going to be a trade piece/starter if somebody got injured.

    He seems to have really found his niche in the pen. Hopefully Hinch keeps using him in high leverage situations.
     
  11. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Ask Hinch -- he's the one using Rondon to close most games now.... and used Peacock, McCullers, and Morton in the playoffs to close out games. Giles is all over the place and can lose his confidence and melt down at a moment's notice. We've seen it time and again.
     
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  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    How many times has Giles melted down in a save situation this season?
     
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  13. ZJP3

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    Beating the Rangers never gets old :)
     
  14. UTAllTheWay

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    Something I realized yesterday watching the videos of Tony Kemp and Evan Gattis hugging in the dugout... the look on both of their faces, especially Gattis. The guy loved it.

    So I decided to check into how Gattis has performed since Kemp joined the team.

    Before May 16 (Kemp's first game): 36 games, .209 avg, 3 HRs, 12 RBIs

    Since May 16: 40 games, .281 avg, 14 HRs, 44 RBIs.

    Apparently Tony Kemp was the secret to wake Gattis up.
     
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  15. sealclubber1016

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    Giles has converted 17 straight saves going back to last season, 19 of 20 if you include the postseason.

    His non save situation f**kery has made him seem much less effective than he's actually been at closing games. 0 ERA in 13 save situations (one turned into a hold). 6.62 ERA in 19 non save outings this season.

    I'm honestly not sure what the hell I''m supposed to make of it.
     
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  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Yep. If the game was tied in the 10th, I was hoping for Sipp. Save situation, Giles. Not sure what his issues are in tied games and non-save situations. Clearly a small sample size this season, but those have been his undoing.
     
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  17. MrBear1

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    Please tell me you're joking
     
  18. Joe Joe

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    Small sample sizes of relief pitching don't do well with splitting them up even smaller. Going forward, he's likely closer to 3.31 in save situations than 0 and closer to 3.31 in non-save situations than he is to 6.62 (i.e. splitting the difference). He'll probably be better than 3.31 going forward.
     
  19. sealclubber1016

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    Maybe it is just random variance skewing it this way, but the numbers are stark this season.

    40 PA, he has allowed 7 singles with 14 K's in save opps
    79 PA, he has allowed 11 extra base hits, 25 hits overall with 14 K's in non save opps.
     
  20. lnchan

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    I think he may get to 10 wins by season's end. He's also more likely to be stretched out than Peacock and Devenski, so he is the most likely to spot start.
     

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