What to do for scoring increases around the league?

Widen the courts. Let them space out more, so there can be more cutting and slashing into the key.

The way it is now, they are already bunched up close to the key.

 

Its mainly the coaches fault why scores are down. I remember back in the 80s even early 90s where most teams would come down court and the first good look at the basket they shoot. Now it's run a set offense that consumes the whole 24 second shot clock or most occasions thus reducing the # of offensive possessions each team has to score each game.

 

Hey, thanks for considering my idea.
Your potential function looks really cool, but I have been staring at the basketball for the last few hours. I was thinking how to improve the game.. and I think the basketball shows me the way.

Have anyone ever wonder why does the basketball has all those line?
I think they are actually a coordinate system with a hyperbola slapped onto a spherical geometry.
If you take it out and put it back on a blackboard, I get this...



where I have the basketball... the lines taken out from the basketball.. the vertical axis named P means point.. and the horizontal axis the usual x that means distance.. and its relation to the actual basketball court...

Acording to the bottom half of the hyperbola then... a midcourt shot will worth 10 pts.. and the dunk would worth two... and the pts slowly increased parabolically with respect to the distance from the basket.

any thought on this?

 

The league changed the rules to allow for zone defense.

This was due to teams going to slow down plays, isolating one man and him going one on one.

Remember Charles Barkley.

Everybody kept saying that changing the rules would speed the game up and make the game more entertaining, with higher scores.

Zone defense is causing low scoring games now.

There is a problem for each solution.

 

Wow. This has been a *very* good day. I have a new screensaver and a new fav poster. I'm not kidding.

pchan, I think we're on the same page. Your pseudo-hyperbolas roughly measure equidistant regions from the hoop. My suggested curve gives point value as you move along, say that middle line through P on your graph. We have the same basic scheme, but for two things: (1) I want to make the dunk worth a lot more, since I'm worried your scale will just result in more and more long-range bricks, and (2) I did not have this brilliant geometrical vision of mapping hyperbolas onto a basketball and back.

Good day.

 

Get rid of the Zone Defense.

 

-get rid of zone defense

-get rid of that stupid semi-circle inside the paint that defenders flock to instead of playing defense

-get these coaches to implement plays involving the mid-range

-get these overpaid @sswipes to hit their mid-range jumpshots

-contraction

 

-width of court needs to be slightly increased

 

I think the easiest way to see if guys are worse shooters today or if it's something else would be to compare the FT % from the 80s to that of today. The only shots that aren't contested are FTs, so if the percentages are about the same, we know it's probably better defense that's to blame.

Anyone have an NBA Almanac from the 80s?

 

I am with Smeg, I don't think the zone is the problem. Shooting is. There're just fewer good shooters around. And the fundamentals of passing and moving without the ball are down.

Oh, and stop paying millions of dollars to those "defense only" players who have no offensive skills. . . and those hyper-athletic high school kids who "show potential" for MAYBE PERHAPS SOME DAY becoming a skilled basketball player.

 

I LIKE THIS ONE

WHAT EVER HAPPEN TO THE . . . . NO CALL [/]

I'm so fricking tired of seeing flopping
but
I'm also so sick of the flip side
the JUMPING UP AND HOPING for a foul call
Jumping into a player's chest

the stuff like blatant wrist grabbing and hacking ok

honestly i'm not sure if i like the touch on the elbow
fouls they call

Rocket River
excessive foul calls stop the flow of the game

 

Actually
I'm beginning to think the SHOOTER's are worse thing is not exactly true
I think 2 things
1. More shots are CONTESTED now
2. More defense are forcing lower percentage shots

Most teams will live with Mo T taking that 18 footer
than him going to the basket
or even Piat at the three than francis or yao in the middle

yea
shooting could be better
esp in traffic [WHICH is everywhere inside the 3 line
thanks to the zone]

In a Zone - where are the weaknesses
A player has to be in the weak pt - catch the ball and shoot
before the defense reacts. The speed and athleticism in the
league makes for QUICK reaction times

we do lack CATCH AND SHOOT players in this league

Rocket River

 

How about putting a sensor in the hoop and all shots made with in the first 10 seconds of the shot clock get an extra point?

That oughta bring the pace to Loyola Marymount warp speed.

 

What's killed scoring:

Overcoached offenses where players are encouraged to set up in the half court and are afraid of making mistakes.

The over-emphasis of highlight-reel dunks and three-pointers.

The de-emphasis on mid-range shots and post-up moves.

Turnover. The number of players and coaches switching teams each year means that few teams develop an effective offensive system.

This "the defenders are bigger" stuff is nonsense. Players aren't noticeably bigger today than they were in the 80s.

 

- widen the court 6-8 ft.
- get rid of the 3-pt line

 

The argument is the defenders are better athletes.

 

I mean all the analysts say different things, but the big things that need to change are:

--take out the zone defense

--in the 70s and 80s you can't leave anyone open because everyone could hit the 19 footer. now because of players like say kelvin cato people can cheat on defense

--the league is over-expanded, more teams --> a dilution of talent

 

Emulate the Kings and Mavs. Problem solved.

 

pgabriel, I don't think they're better athletes either. You telling me Magic and Dominique and Michael weren't as athletic as Kobe and Iverson and McGrady?

 

The zone is the biggest problem.

For those that don't agree, how many high scoring teams are there in college?

The Zone allows long slow footed players to clog up the basket area, forcing teams to shoot over the top of it.

It has severly limited the more creative players in the NBA.

Remove the zone, and get rid of the 3 point line and watch scoring go up.

DD