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Trump salutes North Korean Army general

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. glynch

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    This ridiculous focus on a relatively meaningless incident is so sad and an a key example of how many of those who wish to "resist" Trump need to focus on larger issues. They avoid this silliness if for no other reason it makes them look distressingly similar to the blind Trump worshippers and is not at all effective in actually challenging Trump and his policies.

    With respect to the Korea meeting and peace there, focus on such silliness may be useful to those enthralled by the US foreign policy/ media consensus who essentially wish to ignore (what would they know?) what the people of Korea North and South want to do on their peninsula.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Again, you don't seem to understand what it means to RETURN a salute if you thought that it was saluting Kin Jong Un or his regime to do so. The funny thing is that you guys would be whining no matter what happened. If he had snubbed the general and ignored the salute, something that would be a public sign of disrespect, you'd be bashing Trump for screwing up and potentially sabotaging relations with North Korea.

    I get how a rational person in a sea of people pathologically freaking out about Trump's every move might seem like an apologist, but that's just not the case. There's nothing wrong with returning a salute.
     
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  4. Bobbythegreat

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    The problem is that they continue to waste credibility freaking out about non-stories like this and they then wonder why no one ever takes them seriously. The Trump Derangement Syndrome people are their own worst enemy.
     
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  6. pahiyas

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    Gee, I'll spell it out again for you Bob:

    Your commander-in-chief is RETURNING (ergo conferring) respect and homage to an axis of evil member.
    Non-story? Newsflash for you: one other member of this axis ended up dead, caused thousands of American soldiers' lives and much more of his countrymen and turned his country upside down. The special place in hell are for these people, not for your neighbor upstairs.

    Depends on to whom you confer it to. Will you give your salute to these guys Bob?

     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    So, you'd prefer a path that leads to war then?

    Also, it's interesting that you suggested that a handshake was preferable.....a handshake is a sign of respect or homage just as returning a salute is. More so even.

    Having a potential enemy general saluting the POTUS is a good sign wouldn't you agree?
     
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    Tsk.
    As Trader Joe would say, [educational post]:

    1. It's not POTENTIAL. I know you were not born in the 1950s, but c'mon.
    2. Handshake = I come in peace, I am unarmed. ( for building/repairing relations will be good enough)
    Salute = respect and homage ( if you read up on this regime, you don't do this.)
    3. Prefer war = you probably meant ACTUAL confrontation. Where did you get that gist?

    Under the same circumstances, put your money where your mouth is, Will you give your salute to these guys Bob?
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    SMH, so in your opinion, the right thing to build or repair relations was a public sign of disrespect? I'm guessing you are the type that would have a different opinion if things had gone down differently.
     
  11. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    You wanna build respect with a dictator that kills his own people everyday?

    What's next? Trump saluting Asaad or maybe he should go to Cuba and salute Castro's grave...

    The hypocrisy of the Right ladies and gentlemen.
     
  12. pahiyas

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    Under the same circumstances, put your money where your mouth is, Will you give your salute to these guys Bob?
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    Returning a salute is similar to acknowledging someone bowing to you, doing so doesn't really show all that much respect, but failing to do so shows a LOT of disrespect. Again, I don't expect you to understand that, and I'm sure you think a path that leads to war with a nuclear power is the right idea....based only on the way things happened, of course if they happened differently, you'd have a different opinion.

    If you are trying to repair relations between the two nations and work to make the situation in North Korea better by denuclearizing the country you don't completely blunder the first meeting by openly showing disrespect. I can't believe I even have to spell this out for you.....but that's just how far gone people are these days.
     
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    If I was a diplomat working to return the remains of US soldiers and denuclearize North Korea I would absolutely RETURN a salute to a North Korean military member. It would be r****ded not to.
     
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    it was a diplomatic blunder and a stupid thing to do, but to me the bigger issue is one of hypocrisy.

    fox news and all the "conservatives" freaked out about obama doing a "terrorist fist jab", bowing to the saudi price or japanese emperor. obama saluting a north korean general would have been grounds for impeachment.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    You only think that because you don't know what you are talking about. Bowing to someone is a sign of subservience or submission, something you apparently are fine with, but you draw the line when it comes to RETURNING a salute which is just an acknowledgment of someone else showing you respect as their superior.

    Unsurprisingly, your opinions are based on tribalism instead of any kind of logic....something that we seem to be running into a lot lately.
     
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    I like that you don't even pretend to have intelligent thoughts on this issue.
     
  19. pahiyas

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    OK, Thanks. I rest my case.

    Given the same circumstance and opportunity, Bob is willing to confer respect and homage to an axis of evil member, whose leader just recently ordered the murder of his own brother and uncle, not to mention his people in variety of ways. Congratulations, you are on Trump's level in that department.

    BTW, returning a handshake from a salute is not a sign of disrespect.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm pretty sure you don't know the first thing about military customs and courtesies and you shouldn't pretend like you do. You only embarrass yourself. I've spelled out to you what RETURNING a salute means, and you still don't get it....I'm guessing you won't ever get it unless the next time they meet Trump decides to snub a North Korean general who salutes him. Then you'll magically understand what it means and be upset.
     

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