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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Jun 9, 2018.

  1. SF3isBack!!

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    What you replied to me has nothing to do with what I said and in fact is irrelevant. the democrats dont need texas they are already winning popular votes. republicans haven't won a popular vote for a first term president in almost 30 years. you are literally starting to become obsolete and you know it. thats why Republican policy is crazy and will put parts of this administration in jail. you have to cheat in order to stay relevant. caging children blame democrats, sending jobs overseas and raising taxes on the people who voted for you. at this point if you are a Republican and you're poor or middle class its all but guaranteed that you're an idiot because your politician s are getting rich off of you and you still defend them because your parents are Republican. or because you let your leaders convince you that immigrants are the problem not the devil you voted for. or because you're religious and hate abortion and because your crooked Republican politicians vote against abortion you ignore literally all the ****ed up things they do. you were brainwashed from the day you were born. at this point rebuplicans are cult members.
     
  2. KingCheetah

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    no u
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    It’s gonna be a blood bath in November. The GOP is going to die on this hill and never get it back.
     
  4. Aceshigh7

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    90 pct of the liberals on this board are pathetic. Your hearts are torn for kids crying for their parents. A brief and temporary separation caused by a choice their parents made. You don't give a damn for the American victims of illegal alien violence. People killed and maimed by those that have absolutely no right to be here. You don't give a damn about our country's sovereignty, the rule of law, or the future of this nation.

    You people are pure filth.
     
  5. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    It's cute when a racist scumbag gets uppity. How many six year old brown kids have murdered anyone?

    You provide a completely false choice. We can be a nation of laws and not be craven jackasses.
     
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  6. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Powerful words from an outed racist. Run away from this Urban forum.
     
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  7. SF3isBack!!

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    brainwashed racist.
     
  8. Bandwagoner

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    The election prediction master speaks.
     
  9. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Just wait till this gets played everywhere for the next 4 months. Trump is gonna own this.

    Kids crying for their moms and dads



    Do you have the balls to listen?
     
  10. prohibido

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    The problem with Trump isn't really Trump. He'll eventually get tossed out and die in jail. His racist and idiotic and idiotically racist policies will eventually be repudiated. World history will mock him as an outlying idiot and his supporters as gullible and ignorant, motivated by the basest fears and impulses. Along the way we'll out racist freaks like this guy, we'll ridicule spineless twats like the numerous didn't vote for Trump but I love everything he does crowd.

    You know, fine. The problem that the US will need to sort out somehow is that 40% of the country will suspend laws of time, space and physics in order to hew to what their fuhrer thinks. Obama says he wants to talk to North Korea? MUSLIM TRAITOR! Trump goes to Singapore and gives the world's worst dictator a global platform for legitimization while receiving literally nothing in return? Kim approval ratings among Republicans suddenly skyrocket.

    Trump officials say Yes, we're separating kids from their parents as a matter of policy in order to deter asylum applications. The next day they say We're only doing it because the Democrats make us. The next day they say We're doing no such thing, how dare you?! And these mouthbreathers who wear camouflage to church stand up and shout HELL YEAH! and then in their racist reverie shoot someone down the pew in the foot. Hopefully they don't hit the poor guy's oxygen tank.

    The only possible solution is to ignite the people who did not vote, who do not vote, register each and every 18 year old who knows better than anyone the immediate consequences of a society whose political discourse is largely controlled by gun sellers, convince an irregular, often unseemly, highly disfunctional group of Americans, the 60% of the country that accepts science, that rejects kneejerk racism, that, irreligious as we may be, rejects cruelty in the same way that your religious idol would do but you manifestly do not, let's bind together and b****slap these ignorant racist science denying merciless freaks right tf out of public discourse.
     
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  11. robbie380

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    So I watched the entirety of her press conference. NewRoxFan did you do the same? It doesn’t seem as if anyone is refuting anything she said and it seemed to be a pretty damning rebuttal of the hysteria thru straight forward, reasonable points. I hadn't seen anything like this under Trump and that's why I kept watching.

    It didn’t seem like there was some sort of effort to punish these kids and parents in order to deter people by the DHS based on how she laid things out. It makes me question if this was truly a policy of heavy handed, uncaring deterrence or if it was a policy that was a reaction to the statistics and court ruling she stated. Am I missing something? Are the statistics she quoted incorrect?

    Secondarily, there seemed to be a continual lack of understanding of how the branches of government work by the reporters. The legislative branch legislates the law. The executive branch executes the law. Yes there is discretion, but as she stated this policy was in effect under Obama and Bush but more enforced under Trump. She also bluntly stated why kids were separated and it was for the safety of the kid when there was no proof that the kid was related to the adult.

    What am I missing? Was everything a lie?
     
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    From reading this its obvious that you don't know **** about politics. Typical Democrat scum rat! In the past election, Trump flipped 6 states so don't give all this bs that Democrats don't need a demographic change. Dems are losing support left and right because they have chosen to side with illegals rather with their own people. The blue wave is looking like it's going to be a blue drop of water. Under Trump we've seen one the biggest economic growth, isis neutralized, zero tolerance for illegal immigration and much more. He ran on these issues and his proving to people that he gets things done. People are taking notice and are realizing how incompetent Democrats have been so now they only thing DemocRats have for them is demographic change because they will continue to lose when comes to policies.
     
  13. RocketsLegend

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    yeah, call people racist because you have no argument. This what you liberals do.
    cancer to my country! Please just ****ing leave cancer!
     
  14. TheRealist137

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    Uh oh someone is unhinged. Is it bed time yet in Russia? Oh right it's morning, that's why you have so much energy
     
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    Dude is off his meds lol
     
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    so in less than 4 days,..
    Creepy Miller takes full credit for the 'policy'.
    Divine Sessions gives credit to Jesus for the 'policy'
    Trump gives credit to OBAMA! never mind he has reversed everything OBAMA! has done.
    Nielsen says there was never such 'policy'
    Nielsen says there is such 'policy!'
    And speaker Ryan probably hasn't looked too much into it.

    The kids are being taken care off but Nielsen has no idea where the girls are. sounds legit.
     
  17. NewRoxFan

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    Yes, much of what was said in the press conference were lies. This reporter listed three in the first few minutes of nielson's briefing:



    To directly answer your question about this policy's intention to act as a deterrent, I will bring in trump's chief of staff:



    Here is the entire section:
    "Are you in favor of this new move announced by the attorney general early this week that if you cross the border illegally even if you're a mother with your children [we're going] to arrest you? We're going to prosecute you, we're going to send your kids to a juvenile shelter?

    The name of the game to a large degree. Let me step back and tell you that the vast majority of the people that move illegally into United States are not bad people. They're not criminals. They're not MS-13. Some of them are not. But they're also not people that would easily assimilate into the United States into our modern society. They're overwhelmingly rural people in the countries they come from – fourth, fifth, sixth grade educations are kind of the norm. They don't speak English, obviously that's a big thing. They don't speak English. They don't integrate well, they don't have skills. They're not bad people. They're coming here for a reason. And I sympathize with the reason. But the laws are the laws. But a big name of the game is deterrence.

    Family separation stands as a pretty tough deterrent.

    It could be a tough deterrent — would be a tough deterrent. A much faster turnaround on asylum seekers.

    Even though people say that's cruel and heartless to take a mother away from her children?

    I wouldn't put it quite that way. The children will be taken care of — put into foster care or whatever. But the big point is they elected to come illegally into the United States and this is a technique that no one hopes will be used extensively or for very long."
     
  18. NewRoxFan

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    One other substantiation that trump fully intended separation of children from parents as a deterrent... it has been in his plan for at least a year:

     
  19. NewRoxFan

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    two republicans with their fingers on the pulse...



     
  20. NewRoxFan

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    Last, here's sessions confirming the policy is intended as a deterrence...

     

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