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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by tozai, Jan 5, 2004.

  1. vj23k

    vj23k Member

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    I've always thought that Mack was quite the recruiter, but I don't know any more. A few people had mentioned that a school like Texas can recruit itself, and that's very feasible. It's the state's flagship. It's in a great city. The school is competitive in as many sports as any other school in the country. It has very good academics. And the both the facilities and girls are first-class.

    How much do you really have to recruit? If I were a recruit, Mack's postgame comments would scare the hell out of me. We ran out of time? WTF?
     
  2. Smokey

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    Reese didn't resign under "his own will". That is so BS. Reese took the heat for Mack. I'd be surprised if Davis didn't return.
     
  3. TheFreak

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    They were saying on the radio this morning that this was going to be his last year even before the season started. Like he was planning to retire all along.
     
  4. LonghornFan

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    Macks loyalty is going to do nothing but bog himself down worse in this situation. He's got NFL offensive coaches telling him his kids are coming out without good coaching at the college ranks, yet he still sees nothing wrong. What an ass.

    I would have been ok with keeping Reese over Davis if it was one or the other, but if this rumor stands true it's gonna be real hard to get pumped up for Longhorn football for the 2004 season. What's the point in getting hyped for another 9-3 season/Holiday Bowl appearance?

    So sad, Mack. Good luck with all the negative feedback you'll be swimming in next year. Maybe you can buy some hand mits to cover Davis' ears while yelling "We can't hear you, LALALALALALA!" whenever the complaints start lining up after the first game of the season. I really can't wait to hear some more of your genius quotes. :rolleyes:
     
  5. Cohen

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    Sure.

    But DD was going on and on about how he was not involved in the decision, that he has not spoken w/ Mack WRT the assistants, that he has not spoken to regents WRT the football program, etc...etc.

    Didn't sound like a resignation to me.
     
  6. Smokey

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    IMO the resignation is a Bellmont charade. Mack didn't want to fire any of his assistants. I think his comment that other staff changes are unlikely speak loudly. The pressure was on Mack to make a change. To calm the masses, Reese and Mack decided to part ways. If UT had beat Wazzou, do you think Reese would have resigned? Not likely.
     
  7. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Living here in Austin, that's a hard point to argue. I think UT does sell itself. I don't know how many times I've almost wrecked the car because of the foxes strolling the streets around campus, Town Lake and the other popular places here.

    Brown is getting himself in a pickle. The best thing he could probably do is a "mea culpa" as he boots most of the staff out the door. The repeated stories about players not coming out of the program as well coached as those of OU are the most damning thing I'm hearing. That's the sort of thing that'll make a player choose OU over UT. It sure as hell isn't the comparative "lifestyle".
     
  8. francis 4 prez

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    well, UT wasn't "recruiting itself" like this until mack brown came along. i mean he's been a virtual lock for a top 10 class every year (not sure where this year's class is being ranked) and has had two #1 classes. that wasn't happening before he came along. and there are plenty of prestigious/storied universities out there who pretty much recruit themselves as well so it's not like mack has a big headstart on everyone or something. hell, he pulled in great classes at unc apparently. never been good at football unc. that's gotta say something.

    so since at lfz it looks like davis is staying, i'm pretty pissed. if a miracle occurs, he's staying and being reassigned, but i'm not counting on it. another year of VY being wasted i guess. uhh, yay.
     
  9. ima_drummer2k

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    I think the move to the Big 12 (more high profile games) also had a lot to do with the recruiting in the mid to late 90's. I'm not saying it had nothing to do with Mack, obviously it did. I'm just saying Mack isn't the greatest recruiter in the history of college football like some seem to think.

    I don't think recruiting would fall off too much if he were replaced by Spurrier...
     
  10. LonghornFan

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    #5 and falling according to Rivals.com.

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  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I think Mack has gotten the best recruit in the state every year he's been a Texas. His recruiting isn't overrated.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    Until now..
     
  13. Deckard

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    This is what my brother-in-law keeps saying. ;)
    If Brown refuses to make any changes on his staff (worth mentioning), then he's really going to get vilified on the local sports-talk programs here. Hell, he's getting "raped and pillaged" already. You can't lose to OU like he has the last couple of years (and Arkansas, for tha love of god!) and then have a game like UT had against an inferior Washington State squad to end the season. At the very least, Davis needs to go or get "reassigned".

    The natives are restless.
     
  14. rimrocker

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    Cumulative effects taking hold. Both OK and LSU are above Texas on this year's recruiting chart... not normally a real big deal if you can maximize talent with coaching... but Texas has proved it cannot. It will only get worse. The cuts are still relatively small, but another year of getting spanked by OK and having your two neighbors compete for the National Championship while you're in the Holiday Bowl and the wounds will realy bleed. He needs to go now.
     
  15. Major

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    It will only get worse. The cuts are still relatively small, but another year of getting spanked by OK and having your two neighbors compete for the National Championship while you're in the Holiday Bowl and the wounds will realy bleed.

    Case in point.. Comments by the #1 RB recruit (Adrian Peterson) who was choosing between OU and TX:

    <I>“When I first started thinking about recruiting, Oklahoma was always at the top of my list right up there with Texas,” Peterson said.

    “I did dream about playing for Texas when I was growing up, and <B>I would probably be playing for the Longhorns if I knew they could be a consistent contender for the national championship every season</B>. But the more that I started to look at things, the more my dream started to change. I started having thoughts about playing at Oklahoma and for coach Stoops.”
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  16. tozai

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    Could you post that quote?

    I think not firing Davis is going to severely backfire on Mack. Especially if Gray doesn't come and we hire someone like Akina as DC. Go look at that poll on AAS...over 90% oppose. Go read ANY Texas fan site and see the reaction. Less than 5% are content now.
     
  17. LonghornFan

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    There have been numerous stories the past few years regarding blue chip recruits going to Texas with so much upside, yet leaving without alleged proper coaching. This came from NFL coaches, scouts, etc. I'm sure if you search through Google, you can find more of the same below.

    ESPN atricle before last years draft.


    Simms tries to rewrite his scouting report

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    By Adrian Wojnarowski
    Special to ESPN.com


    The NFL scout tells the story of traveling to the University of Texas to study tape on the long line of Longhorns pro prospects, popping a copy of the Oklahoma game into the machine and turning his discerning eye to the quarterback without a fighting chance for success. For three seasons, nothing changed: Same simplistic schemes, same vertical routes, same fallout for Chris Simms, cursed with the fallout as a big-game failure.


    Chris Simms says the offense he ran at Texas didn't allow him to grow as a quarterback.
    "Hang in there," the scout told Simms. "We see what's happening here."

    Finally, the most relentlessly scrutinized player in college football history invites the scouts' eyes at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., this week. Simms wants everyone to watch him on the same South squad with his Heisman Trophy teammate, USC's Carson Palmer, and believe Simms when he insists the best of the Texas senior is still stored within his powerful left arm. He wants them to believe the NFL scout who says his true potential had been constrained within an unsophisticated college offense.

    "You saw Carson Palmer and USC's offense," Simms said, "and they were doing everything. They had guys going in every direction. He got to make a lot of different throws. Same with Byron Leftwich. Their offense is wide open. He was getting to throw 50 times a game. That's the reason I'm going to this game this week. I want to go there and show the coaches and the scouts that I can make every throw on the field."

    Before leaving for Saturday's Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., Simms sipped on a protein shake at fitness guru Bill Parisi's gymnasium in New Jersey. For the next three months, this is Simms' conditioning home as he prepares for the pre-draft process that promises to probe and prod him. He's desperate for a chance to sell himself. For now, he's projected as a second- to fourth-round pick, but as one NFL executive says, "I'm still trying to understand how much of his trouble against great defenses in college was him, and how much was his coaching ... because his tools and his makeup are just too impressive to believe that the pressure just paralyzed this kid."

    "I wish it had been different my sophomore year," Simms said. "We lost to OU 63-14. I didn't get into the game until it was 35-0. After that, they picked Major as the starter. I wish they had picked me as the starter. Because the season was lost at that point. We had lost to Oklahoma and we had lost to Stanford. We weren't going to win the national championship. I was really hoping they would make me the starter so I could get more experience for the next year.

    "They knew there was more upside (with me). As soon as we got done with that bowl game after my sophomore year, they told me, 'You're going to be the starter next year. Don't worry about it.' So, if you knew that all year, why didn't I play the last five games and let me get some experience?"

    "That's the thing that I've always regretted. Going into my junior year I was inexperienced. In my fifth game ever, there I am sitting there against Oklahoma in the Red River War, against the No. 2 team in the country."

     
  18. mduke

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    Rhett Bomar
    Robert Reid
    Adrian Peterson

    The 3 smartest football players in the state of Texas...:D
     
  19. Smokey

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    Davis told Reid: "If Bomar doesn't sign with us, we'd love to have you". He should be fired for that incompetance on the spot.
     
  20. francis 4 prez

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    who calls it the red river war? i sympathize with anyone that's had to learn from greg davis but you weren't better than major in college chris, end of story, and you shouldn't have started the next year either. so consider yourself +12 games, not -5. i read the same story a long time ago and it still pisses me off.
     

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