Who thinks the Rox need a NEW GM?

CD has Scott Layden disease.

 

Yeah, I think the Rockets organization needs some management changes as this team has made far more bad personnel decisions in the post championship years than good ones. I will not, however, criticize management for making the Eddie Griffin trade on draft day as I, and everyone who followed college basketball, thought that was a good move at the time it occurred.

 

I think you need to shut the **** up!

CD has done A LOT for this team, whether it is for the good or not. The entire NBA world was in awe when Houston got Pippen. That didn't work out, but how were the Rockets to know?

Same thing with the Francis deal. People love him, and people hate him, based on his early performance. But would you rather have Brent Price, Othella Harrington, and Antoine Carr. At the time you couldn't argue against that trade, even though the Rockets still haven't made the playoffs. Heck, ************** rated that his best transaction.

The worst?

The Eddie Griffin deal; but even so, every GM in the league thought it was a great deal. The only thing CD is guilty of is bad and pathetic draft picks, but most of them fall in the hands of Rudy. For some reason he wanted no-talent white guys.

It's not CD's fault the players can't win.

 

I personally think we really should be patient and give them until the end of the season before any player and management changes.

I say this because we have a new coaching staff, new philosophy, new players, and its been 1/3 through the season and people are ready to trade everyone on the team.

No, not right now. If at the season we don't make the playoffs, then its time to make trades, etc.

 

one more point, the thing that gets me is giving out huge contract to Moochie???

 

First of all, I think you're living in the past. For all the great decisions team management made pre-1995, they have made three terrible decisions for every one good decision they've made since then.

I'm talking about drafting players like Turkcan with the 18th pick in the draft, Drew with the 16th pick in the draft, Rodrick Rhodes with the 24th pick in the draft (for those that don't recall, most GM's thought Rhodes would go undrafted), Nachbar with the 15th pick in the draft, drafting Joel Pryzbilla with the 9th pick in the draft before trading him for Jason Collier and in the same draft drafting Najera and trading him for Dan Langhi. I understand that all organizations make a bad pick now and then, but it's becomes an annual event around here post 95'.

I'm talking about signing players like Kelvin Cato, Moochie Norris, Mo Taylor, Matt Maloney, and Steve Francis to contracts that were either too long or too expensive or both for what the Rockets were getting in return.

I'm talking trading Kenny Thomas for Posey (even if Posey stays), I'm talking giving up first round picks for players like Jon Amaechi who don't even get into the game. The list goes on and on and on.

This organization made some great moves in the early 90's. Drafting Robert Horry and Sam Cassel when no one thought much of them, signing Mario Elie. Using the success of building that team to attract the likes of Drexler, Barkley, and Pippen. But somehwere along the way they lost their magic because I can keep naming pathetic moves this organization has made in the last eight years. The list of good moves the team has made is much, much shorter. Had some of these guys not been parts of the Rockets championship teams, they would have been gone long ago.

 

siiiiiiiiigh the good ole days

 

Remember, it could always be worse...

 

This will tell you just how ignorant our owner is. CD recieved a two year extention several months ago; I believe in October, if I am not mistaken.

 

It's absolutely 100% positive that half of the contracts CD has offered were outrageous. But at the time of them, they seemed good. Maybe none of you will think so now, but you probably did when those contracts were signed.

Who knew Mo Taylor would get injured?

Would you have let Francis go?

I'm not standing up for him, but he did what he and the organization felt was best for the team. Many other GMs would do the same as he did. Having said all of this, I think he will probably be gone in a year or two, but who would replace him?

Most of you who voted 'YES' in this poll are probably sick and tired of the Rockets' losing this year. Losing is due to VG's poor coaching.

Just wait until April when this team is top 3 in the division.

Now that Moochie deal was blatant stupidity to some degree. Much of that had to do with local ******* Dan Fegan.

 

I be he feel stongly about it to

 

Not true. I would say that it is unfair to criticize the Griffin trade and the Francis trades. Both looked good at the time. But I can tell you with full honesty that I thought the signings of Cato, Taylor, Moochie, and Francis were bad moves at the time they were made. As for the draft picks, when we drafted players like Turkcan, Drew, Rhodes, Collier, and Langhi, my thoughts were usually first, "who?, why so high?, oh well I'll give them the benefit of the doubt." I never looked at these moves as great moves. I criticized the Amaechi trade in my above post. To be fair I probably should have mentioned the cap room they got with this trade, but given the moves the Rockets organizations have made the past decade, I have no reason that that money will be well spent.

As for being top 3 in the division come mid-April, I would love it, but that would mean we would be ahead of San Antonio, Minnesota, or Dallas and I find that downright laughable.

 

i dont get why people keep saying new system and new coach. Look at UTAH they got a whole roster pratically with newer players and they seem to already now there system. And what about the lakers they got a new point guard and forward that played different systems for many years than the lakers, but were still able to adapt in a short amount of time.

FIRE CD!

 

YEa? well it is obvious to anyone with a brain that Sloan is a much better coach than VG (god I hated to say that) and fitting in two hall of famers to the triangle offense isnt that hard to do either...(I refuse to give credit to Phil" The Antichrist" Jackson)

 

Tough to say. Maybe CD has a decided lack of imagination, and so, with Rudy, simply kept bringing in pick-up players. A bunch of guys who can iso, have great individual stats, but seldom play like a team.

Off-season rumors had us tied with upgrading at the PF position, or trying to do so anyway. But nothing came of it.

Plus, does CD advocate making a move, but Les doesn't want to spend the money?

If I have had a particular peeve with Carroll Dawson, it is the undying loyalty he shows to players. A great trait to have in a human being. But as a GM, are you hanging onto certain players because you're a great guy and want to see them turn it around, or have you made those players promises to keep them here if you sign them to a certain contract (Cat to less money than Toronto would have given him, Steve to a max)?

Or are you unwilling to admit that you screwed the pooch without even giving Fido a reach-around?

We have missed out on Shareef Abdur-Rahim more than once. The first time, Rudy didn't want to part with Dream. OK, I can give a grudging nod to that, although Dream was 90 years old by then and would have been generally OK in Vancouver, living near family. Then last year we turn down EG and Rice for Griffin. Maybe Les was getting cheap, but by all accounts, CD kept backing up Eddie (recent articles attest to this), despite the fact that in his 2nd year he had shown no improvement and no desire for improvement. In fact, with all due respect to his predicament, did Eddie Griffin ever show an "emotion" other than apathy?

So we cling to Eddie because we wasted---er, spent---three #1 draft picks on him, even though it should have become clear in hindsight that there was a reason that all the teams who did scout Eddie passed on him with the first six picks in the draft for a reason.

And now the same thing with Steve and Cat. Rudy was not the best coach in the world, or rather, is not the coach you need as a teacher/mentor. But our backcourt is constantly fighting, fighting, fighting to remember that they are not the only two guys on the court. It doesn't help when their teammates can't hit the ocean if they dropped a brick over the side of a boat. Still, how often do I have to open the Chronicle and read Steve saying, "We're tired of this. We have to change. We didn't do this. We didn't do that."

And yet we traded a lot for Steve and he's a big All-Star vote-getter and we won't want to admit that he and JVG and Yao form a sort of inverted Bermuda Triangle, dangerous only to itself.

If we keep going through this abysmal torture without making a move before the trade deadline, then yes, fire Carroll Dawson.