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Yao is the main problem

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Dec 23, 2003.

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  1. Hippieloser

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    Could LeBron somehow teach Jimmy and Cato how to shoot?

    There is no quick fix, people. I don't know enough about Van Gundy to know how he'll respond to the challenge of this team, but I DO know he hates losing. We're a third of the way into his first season here, so we might as well grit our teeth and give him a chance to do his thing. It may take a couple years... maybe 10.

    Bottom line is, JVG has won before, and he didn't win by coaching like Red Aurbach, Phil Jackson or Rudy T. (Yeah, I left out Riley. ;) ) He won by coaching his own way, and since he's going to be our coach for the next few years AT LEAST, we should give him what he wants and see what he can do. I mean, we can't do anything else, right?
     
  2. Tulsa RocketFan

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    Here is my simple take. What's the common thread in the Rocket's four-year absence from the playoffs? STEVE FRANCIS.
     
  3. Sane

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    This team loses a LOT more when Yao does well than when Francis does well. Interpret that however you want, but I think it says a lot about our team's deirection.

    Yao still doesn't think that any single player should average around 20 FGA's a game, when he should. We need to show him some tapes of Laimbeer, some of Duncan, and some of Olajuwon. He needs fire, and that's all.
     
  4. PumperX

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    I see. So Cato HAS to be our franchise player. Interesting.
     
  5. canoner2002

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    SF gets paid more than Nash and Parker combined! He'd better be a lot better than those two. I don't see that. I would trade SF for Nash+Parket and throw in Mochiee as bonus :rolleyes:

    SF used to be able to get his 20/6/6, but he never learned to get his teamates invloved! Now he is not even to shoot the ball well.

    Recently there has been a trent to blame Yao for SF's poor performance. A max paid PG doesn't get his game taken away when talents are added to his team. Payton is now surronded with superstars and he is doing great! Nash palys best with Dirk. Marbury played his best season last year when Amare was added. If you insiste SF is at his best when play 1-on-5, I don't know what to say.

    I think some SF only fans just don't like the fact that their man is forced to pass the ball.
     
  6. tigernet

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    I just want to bash you twice a day. Have you ever seen Dalas's offense lead by Nash?

     
  7. dback816

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    For all your good points about Yao, I got a question tho....

    Isnt Ewing be the guy that's suppose to teach him all these stuff? Why isn't he showing any dramatic improvement? I think it's reasonably to believe that Yao is a humble, if not fast, learner, why hasn't Ewing addressed all these stuff? o_O
     
  8. dback816

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    Juugie, lol you're such dumbass.

    I think you and danjojo should spend a night in a hotel to share your hate. Maybe find some love too.
     
  9. canoner2002

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    I don't know what evidence you have backs up your conclusion. Isn't it a fact that we have a good record whenever Yao gets 3 or more blocks in a game? How many times did we lose when Yao has double-double? And how do you explain that we often get outscored when Yao is out?

    And what makes you think that Yao doesn't believe any single player should average more than 20. He was average 30+ in CBA himself! He is not pushing hard for that in NBA only because he believes his forcing that at this stage will hurt the team. Contrary to some players who care too much about their own stats, Yao cares too little right now. He needs time and more confidence.
     
  10. PumperX

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    lol
     
  11. Juugie

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    I'll get danjojo in my hotel room right after I get through with your mother. :p
     
  12. Rockets2K

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    juugie,
    dont resond to crap like that..especially with the moronic response you gave.

    It's immature and solves nothing except to further the insults....if yall want to do that stuff...go to the espn boards...it isnt welcome here.
     
  13. ZRB

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    The problem with this team is that it's two best scorers are only averaging around 17 points per game. This team will not be successful until its all stars start playing like all stars.

    The Lakers have had a lot of nice role players over the years, but during their title runs, Kobe and Shaq were always dominant on offense.

    The Rockets are relying too much on players like Jackson and Mo Taylor.

    We need Francis and Yao to start getting 20+ points per game. If that doesn't happen, the Rockets will continue to depend on their overrated defense, and we will continue to see 80-79 type games.
     
  14. Deuce Rings

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    I'd say I pretty much agree with you. I think the skills are there to be a top 15 player in this league if not better. Stamina and attitude are his shortcomings. Stamina might greatly improve if/when Yao gives China the finger after next year's Olympics (loyalty is one thing, but this guy stands to lose millions and millions of dollars if he wears himself out by honoring his commitment to the Chinese national team which will not make him the kind of money that his presence in the NBA will bring). Attitude is the questionmark that the Rockets organization must solve before it comes time to give Yao a raise. Come this time next year if Yao is still not showing any signs of improved aggression the Rockets are going to have to make some hard, hard decisions that I'm glad I won't have to make.
     
  15. dback816

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    Wow a mom joke. COngratz. You've won. I gave up ok?

    Rocket2k, you've made plenty of moronic, and if I may say, selfish comments too. You may not realize it, because well, you're selfish. Btw, do you know what a joke is? You must be really mature (literally). I got nothing aganist people of old age, but please be understandable and put yourself in younger people's shoes before you give your glorious speech about how to behave.

    People are welcome to give their opinions on things, but if you're too bias or just full of crap like Juugie, then o_O
     
  16. Juugie

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    You are so right Rockets2K.

    I try not to stoop to that kind of stuff.

    Apologies all.
     
  17. olliez

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    ZRB, the unspoken rule of Rockets is Yao shoots 8~10 times, then start doing laps around the court & watch guards jacking up bricks.

    ;)
     
  18. Xenogears

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    Haha whoever mentioned that Nash only avgs .5 turnovers less than Francis is a dumbass. You do know that this year is an unusally high turnover year for Nash and that stat will come down? Plus Dallas still leads the league in fewest turnovers, while the rox are 21st. Stop comparing Francis to Nash since it's such an insult to Nash when you do that.

    Francis is THE PROBLEM on this team. Yao is ready to take over this team now, but Francis can't let go of it and it has a lot to do with the dumb media giving him the Franchise label and not earning it. I see a similar Cleveland situation here. Davis wasn't willing to play 2nd fiddle to Lebron and now that he's gone Lebron is flourishing. Same thing is happening here with francis. If any of you believe any of the things Francis saying to the press about wanting to win only, then you are more naive than I thought possible. Didn't everyone in cleveland say the same thing with Davis and James. We all know that was BS now and was just something to feed the media and naive fans.
     
  19. Juugie

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    How can I be a dumbass when it is a statistical fact?

    And your opinion of what Nash will do is irrelevant.

    The facts are the facts.
     
  20. WAG

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    Yao will be fine - it takes some players a few years to really develop. How long had Hakeem been in the NBA before he led the Rockets to a Championship?

    Having said that, I do agree with those who are frustrated that Yao does not use his height to his advantage. This is insane. He seems not to realize his own size. I saw him lose the ball once cause he was holding it near his knees and had it stripped - surely this has happened more than once. Perhaps he could hold it in the air over his head - that'd be, what, 10 feet off the ground? Slightly more difficult to swipe.
     

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