[NPR] U.S. Hits Russian Oligarchs And Officials With Sanctions Over Election Interference

Who or what convinced trump? Gee... I wonder?

Week 46: Mueller Rattles the Oligarchs
Treasury filed the sanctions, but the special counsel set the punishing tone.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/04/07/week-46-mueller-rattles-the-oligarchs-217833

Exclusive: Mueller's team questioning Russian oligarchs
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/poli...el-investigation-russian-oligarchs/index.html

 

Your derangement has you totally unaware of what thread you posted this. I swear some of you guys just need to go on and get that hysterectomy.

 

Prior to the UK poisoning, what major transgression had Russia perpetrated against the US or its allies?

 

It's hard to tell in this forum these days, so just asking: is your question serious? Other than trying to undermine our election in their favor? (and Germany and France and Britain and others?)

 

That occurred during a previous administration.

 

Here's where I'm unclear. This legislation was passed with veto-proof majority an eternity ago and the administration simply refused to carry it out (umpteenth constitutional crisis.) So Trump "reluctantly" signed now, why? I really doubt he was somehow convinced by the special investigator; there's nothing that will ingratiate him to that team. The Treasury Dept is responsible, but aren't Trump appointees in charge there? My best guess is one or more of the presidents' new cabal actually convinced him to sign.

 

This was your question:

The answer is: meddling in our election and the election of our allies. (we could discuss Ukraine & Crimea but let's keep it simpler for now.)

How is it that the transgression happened under a different administration is relevant to your first question?

 

I see my suspicions were correct. You are slow. The hacking did not stop in the Spring of 2016 and did not only involve gathering and releasing information.

 

He’s not slow. His lies are very deliberate.

 

True true. Take global warming for instance. We all know how fake that is. After all, it's just el nino and la nina variations. If you fluctuate el nino and la nina, the planet warms over time. Afterall, look at how hot it was during the age of the dinosaurs - did they complain about how warm it was? NO! They did pretty well. And everything was green and lush.

 

He was not president, duh. What could then non-president Trump have done? Events that took place in 2016 were the responsibility of another administration.

So all you can point to is something that happened while Trump was not president and then chide him for not doing anything while not being president.

 

Seriously, I don't know what is going on with you. He isn't being blamed for anything while not being president. He's being blamed for while he was president not taking any action as information unfolded that showed that attacks by Russians happened in 2016.

Are you suggesting that because it happened months before he was president he shouldn't continue to ramp up the actions which the Obama administration started? Should he do nothing because it happened months before he was sworn into the office?

Should a cop who is hired in January take no action if they find a criminal who committed a crime a few months earlier? Should Truman have not continued WWII since it started when FDR was president? Should he have just made nice with Hitler and the Japanese? That's what it sounds like you're saying. It looks like you're using the fact that he wasn't the president at the time it happened to suggest Trump shouldn't be chastised for doing anything once he was sworn in.

 

I understand that some people feel that Obama didn’t do anything about Russia’s transgressions or that he didn’t try hard enough to punish them, so they wanted Trump to do something about Russia once he became president.

However, Russia had already been sanctioned by the time Trump became president. What was he suppose to do: beat a dead horse? Have a hamburger with the Russian president? Hit the reset button?

 

You seem to be the only one saying that about Obama's term.
However, Russia had already been sanctioned by the time Trump became president. What was he suppose to do: beat a dead horse? Have a hamburger with the Russian president? Hit the reset button?[/QUOTE]Nobody but you are really saying that about Obama.
Do you think they stopped after 2016?

This is where it seems like you fail to grasp what's happened here. Trump could have started by acknowledging that it was Russia and Putin was responsible. Even though it was known that it was Russia, Trump didn't pay attention or ignored this in his intel briefings.

So the first thing Trump could have done was actually learn what threats were posed to our nation.

Secondly, do you think that no new information about what Russia did became known during Trump's term?

So the second thing he could have done was to enact further reprisals as more information became and continues to become available. But again, he'd have to actually care about paying attention during his intel briefings.

Third, when he expels diplomats he can make it so they don't just get to replace them with new people.

The list goes on and on, but you don't seem to have a firm grasp of what has happened here so I don't know whether it's beneficial to keep discussing this with you.

 

I fully expected trump to cast doubt on our intel and to believe Putin on Russia intererence in our election. I don’t get what else should we expect from the POTUS?

 

Be quiet cuck

I'm still waiting on Trump to say something about Russia and Zaddy Putin and personally condemn them. I don't care what the 'official United States stance' is when Trump undermines it every day.

 

Does this mean we can finally move on from RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA?

 

1) Your own question was: "Prior to the UK poisoning, what major transgression had Russia perpetrated against the US or its allies?" If your entire point is about the current president, you should have reframed the question.

2) What does your question have to do with the post by NewRoxFan you responded to? It included two articles, Exclusive: Mueller's team questioning Russian oligarchs and Week 46: Mueller Rattles the Oligarchs. What about this post makes you engage in deflecting blame from the president for anything? Did you respond to the wrong thread?