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Is MDA really that great of a coach?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OTMax, Oct 13, 2017.

  1. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

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    Isn't COY a regular success and much easier to attain than MVP for a player.

    It's all success for one season and you dun even have to be the best coach, just the coach with the best record and a good story.

    I think he is a great Coach for Offense still but there are others catching up. He has to rely on others for Defense.
     
  2. No Worries

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    My big question mark wrt MDA was defense. The team has committed to being a better defensive team this year.

    I see better the defensive effort as a whole team effort. MDA last year brought in a top flight defensive assistant, Jeff Bzdelik. Morey brought in Chris Paul, PJ Tucker and Luc Mbah a Moute. Now the Rockets have one of the best offensive teams and an above average defensive team. A perfect mix for a championship run.
     
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    I gotta admit. When he first joined the Rockets, I was very skeptical of what he'll do as a coach for us.

    I give way more credit to James Harden. Instead of giving JH his MVP trophy, they spread the credit out to 6th man in EG and COTY in MDA.
     
  4. hakeemthagreat

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    I also felt MDA got a unfair label as a no defense, bad postseason type coach. Labels are everything in sports. What ppl don't research is the factors that lead up to why these coaches fail. Injuries, bad officiating, player personnel etc..are all things ppl don't consider when assessing why a coach didn't succeed. The Phoenix team had a few bad breaks which lead to them not succeeding. The Knicks will forever suck. The Lakers have been a mess. Can we really blame MDA for the failures here? He's a GREAT coach given the right players to compliment his system. He now has a defensive coach to offset his offense. IMO, MDA is one the GOAT coaches in NBA history
     
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  5. Nook

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    When MDA took over as head coach I was very concerned that the chemistry issues would destroy the Rockets. MDA was meeting with Les Alexander when Morey didn't know and based on history there was a real concern that MDA and Morey would clash based on ego. Further, MDA has a history of not leading like he should when times are tough. However, other than a few bumps concerning DMO there has been harmony.
     
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    If you don't see plays being run then you are either not watching or you just don't know what you are watching.
     
  7. intergalactic

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    MDA's key trait is his innovation, while being solid in the other areas. He's a great fit with Morey, who is constantly pushing the boundary with his analytical approaches. There are some other coaches who are arguably better at player and in-game management (e.g. Stevens, Kerr, Carlisle, Stotts. Pops > all.). But MDA is the most willing to try out new things, which is important if your goal is to be the very best.
     
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    Is this like the time we complained that Adelman was a terrible coach?
     
  9. OTMax

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    old post, read ;)
     
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    I remember Harden was players MVP with Mchale as coach and who was his backup SG then?

    its more like Ego and MDA should give their trophies to Harden
     
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    Odds of winning COY 1:30
    Odds of winning MVP 1:450?

    plus COY has a lot more contributing factors beyond the actual coach... depends on the roster the GM has built... depends on how players perform... MVP can obviously be partially influenced by a players teammates and the roster - but not to the degree COY is...
     
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  12. daywalker02

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    Yeah, I just dun want to worry about something that's not important right now.

    Me, I am no Worrier.

    It's easy for me - If he wins us a championship no matter the hardship, then he is great in my books. Not until then.

    Very good coach. I keep it pretty simple.

    MVP- was pretty hard for Harden to win - obviously not for Nash.

    I have no affiliation to MDA and his family. Why should I give him the benefit of the doubt?!
     
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    I agree that it's significantly more difficult and impressive to win MVP than coach of the year, but, it's not a lottery system. Odds of 1:450 implies that every player has an equal chance of winning MVP, when it's very rare for more than 2-3 players to even be in the running.
     
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    Nope, that year we have a really crappy supporting cast. Also, we have that cancer trash in Howard...Dtonio has already tried with Howard in lakers and noone can play with that Trash. So if we still have Howard, this team would still suck under dantonio. We made major improvement by adding gordon and Anderson. That being said, Dtonio is pretty much overated. He's only as good as his PG player. He sucked in NY and suck and LA...he's lucky to coach nash and Harden.

     
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    I would agree with your assessment of Dwight. He's a pouting cancer. He ruined this team.
    Wasn't MDA's fault.

    But by your own standards we can dismiss Pop too.
    He was the beneficiary of a big 3 of Duncan, Parker and Ginobli
    How is SA looking right now that Duncan is gone and Parker and Ginobli are senior citizens?
    Pop overrated? Seems to be. They aren't lighting it up anymore. Struggling to make the playoffs. LOL

    Same with Phil Jackson. Was a 'genius' when he had MJ, Kobe and Shaq. 11 rings.
    Then in NY reality hit. Overrated?

    We can play this game all day. . . .

    You can't tell me that MDA is not a difference maker for this team.
    YOU imply MDA's success is a result of Harden. There is 'some' truth in that.
    But I would say the opposite. MDA's system vaulted Harden into the stratosphere, hence vaulting the team along with it.
    Harden is a terrific player in his own right, but he thrives in MDA's system
     
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    Pairing him with Bzdelik was key though - people tend to forget that our big improvement was in D
     
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    MDmA is a fantastic offensive coach and always has been. The moves he's made within the organization to put more emphasis on defense is remarkable. Jeff Bzdelik deserves a ton of credit, but the whole organization does as well. It takes a lot for a coach to put his ego behind him and let someone else run the show on defense, it took an owner that believed in the guy, a GM who's filled needs for it to all work. A lot of people deserve credit, but MDmA is way up there.

    Just an FYI... MDmA has won 62 games in the regular season, but never more than that.
     
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  18. Invisible Fan

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    Mike should get credit for making a fun system that attracts fa. He activated Harden to another aspect of his game and elevated him from just the best sg in the league into one of the best overall.

    I don't think anyone expected Harden to dominate at point even when we knew he passed often as sg. To do that while increasing his offensive stats was monstrous for his growth...something McFail or jb could not have seen or get across.

    At this point, it looks like the team is compensating for MDA's "disinterest" in defense. It's like they know it's on all of them to make defense work and to win at a high level. Not the best answer when the pieces don't fit, but I think it's easier to put that work in when everyone gets a touch and a shot.
     
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    Your post is flawed. What MDA needed was Kobe and Carmelo. That would have been an epic team.
     
  20. Air Langhi

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    I think he is a great offensive coach. His offense is pretty much what most nba teams run now days.
     
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