The Truest Indicator: I Actually Turned Off the Game...

That was the real analysis. I think they are playing for themselves. They have all decided they don't like this coach, and it starts with Steve and Cat. I don't think either one ever did like him. And now he has ruined their offense and made the game not fum to play or WATCH. So much for filling seats and sparking interest. They look like they are going the way of PHX or ORL. Teams lost and just going through the motions.

 

Did Van Gundy sleep with your wife or something? Even the Yao-only fans are not this brutal with the guards as you are with Van Gundy. How many post is that so far today bashing him?

 

Yes, I totally agree and was about to start a similar thread myself. This team is unwatchable and I found myself switching the chanel to the replay of the Victoria Secret party on UPN yesterday. This is a sad day for Rockets basketball and the NBA in general.

 

04-05 New Slogan

Rockets Apathy, Catch It!
or don't...what do i care.

 

Ewwww... the poor woman.

 

I, too, decided that watching the game would do me more harm than good. I watched that cool Alamo documentary on the History channel. Who knew Travis and Bowie were such total chodes?

This Rockets team is seventy times more mysterious than the conjecture on the Texas revolution, though. I need some historians to explain it to me.

 

Great thread...I agree one hundred percent. I recently revealed that I did not watch the entire second half of last season, by choice, after the Rockets suffered the embarassing loss against Cleveland right before the All-Star break. Someone questioned if I was jumping off the bandwagon...not really. I'm getting more and more frustrated with the act this team is putting on and am finding it harder to justify sitting down for three hours only to get no personal satisfaction from a Rockets' blowout loss. At least a feeble effort would possibly give me some glimmer of hope that the team might be headed in the right direction.

What a great time for the organization to try pushing a midseason season tickets sale-a-thon. If I were a season ticket holder, I'd be demanding some sort of retribution for having to put up with what's going on. And who's most excited about the Rockets offensive efforts these days...local McDonalds. The 100 point barrier may never be seen again this year (at least by the Rockets).

Rant over....gotta slither off back to the HO.

 

Nero,

I am right there with you - for the first time in several years - I find myself turning the channels, not wanting to watch them. I never thought it would ever come to this - it is unbelievable.
I just wanted to let you know, your not the only one. The worse thing is I was really contmplating buying some mini-plan season tickets, but there is no way now - way too depressing.

 

That's great!

And it's funny because it's true.

First of all, I would say this pertains to Steve more than Cat. Mobley seems to be doing what JVG is asking of him and as a result he is playing well. And as far as I am concerned, I think it is great what Steve is doing. He is showing that he cannot operate within the simplist of systems and he's going to play himself right out of town. He is going to be gone before the start of next season.

 

I agree with ricerocket that these players have decided they don't like this coach, but in my case, I don't defend the players and bash JVG.

CD and Rudy assembled a pickup team, and that is the way they still play. JVG didn't quite turn chicken s**t into chicken soup in NY, but he came close. Now he has talent but man, oh man, that talent is fighting him.

I can't speak for Yao. I think he's wearing down a bit and getting brutalized because no other player on the team can hit an open shot. He has miles to go, but he has improved. It's just that the nature of this team is demoralizing to every player out there.

Alton Ford can play backup minutes; why do we insist on keeping this team in its current makeup, when it is clear that even if we make the playoffs it will be by the skin of our teeth, and probably will not last long, considering Denver, Memphis, hell, all the teams out West.

Probably I'm just venting because some kind of move is necessary, and maybe a move is being worked on as we speak.

Where I completely diverge from ricerocket's opinion is that JVG is the problem. Steve Francis is the star of the team, and his frustration is poisoning the well.

I will paraphrase on some of the quotes I can remember from Steve:

I was talking to Rudy (recently)...


JVG has made me a better defensive player [my note: since when?]

Neither of us (JVG or himself) is going anywhere, so...

Jim Jackson told me that this reminds him of the first year of AI and Larry Brown [my note: which never got much better]

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Steve is a great improvisational player who needs to be the AI of an Eastern Conference team. Engineer a trade that gives us a strong power forward and a decent point guard with Steve as the bait and we will all breathe a sigh of relief.

Won't happen, though.

 

I know what you mean, Nero.

I didn't even bother watching the game. Granted, my nephew was in a Christmas play, which I went to see, but I made it back in time to check out the score. And then gave up.

Until some roster changes are affected, the Rockets will slide, slide, slide.

 

What's sad is that I've only watched the 1st quarter of the Rockets' games for the past 3-4 games. It's just unbearable to watch the whole game. I find myself yelling and cursing at the TV to the point where a visit to a church for confession seemed necessary.

I think that everyone is at fault. I used to defend JVG but I have to wonder what him and his assistants do during practice time. I don't mean the time they watch videotapes of their games and see how dumb they looked. I'm talkin bout on-court practice.

And Ewing...wtf is HE doing? If he was hired to help Yao, shouldn't he teach Yao on how to hold his post or grab rebounds instead of always volleying it up in the air?

I won't even get into the rest of the team....wait I think I will do it for 3 guys.

Mobley--before the season I already had wanted him off the team, but I'm glad that didn't happen. Unfortunately, he's the only scoring 'threat' we have. He's been doing what JVG has told him to do (to what I see in games of course) and it has been working until as of late. He gets a bit more respect from me now.

Francis--I'm sorry but I hate the type of person (not even basketball player) that can't practice what he preaches. Y'all know what I'm talking about.

a)the time he said the Bulls were playing for themselves and should be playing a team game

b)yesterday in the chron where he said the team is on a 'rollercoaster ride' but he wants to be on it and blah blah blah

c)all those times he says he sees how he and the team makes dumb mistakes and says we need to fix that

He makes more empty promises than a politician. And quite frankly, I think that he doesn't want to challenged himself to be an elite guard is b/c 1) he gets on the All-Star team b/c of popularity and 2) we labeled him the 'franchise' already. Sadly, I think these 2 things just made his head bigger.

Yao--honestly, i would like to believe that he's tired from all that basketball playing during the summer. But that does not excuse him from not being able to post up on smaller players when he's 7'6" and 300+ lbs. and that doesn't excuse him from GRABBING a rebound instead of volleying it to himself. Ewing should practice these things with him and Yao should learn that the NBA has a lot more 6'10+ players than Asian League does to volleying a ball to get a rebound won't work.

 

wow, this is turning into a thread of, "What would you do if you were no longer addicted to basketball?"

personally, I customized some weapons for my stikfas (props if you know what those are ) and studied for my final. Maybe rockets apathy isnt so bad afterall.

 

stikfas are cool. i'm spending time toy hunting for marvel legends and sportspicks hahaha

 

the past 3 games have made me feel the same way.

things that disgust me:

horrible ball movement
steve francis's dribbling the clock out all the time
the amount of turnovers and the type of turnovers
yao's inability to get good inside position all the time
no rebounds...last night a ball bounced off yao's chest
they keep saying 'struggling offense' as if we have a
working offense that it temporarily in a rut...but i'm convinced
that we have..........
NO CHEMISTRY...brings back the first point...nothing is gelling


get rid of JVG.
the whole team needs to be gutted.

not watching the game against the cavs tonight.

 

Me, too Nero... except I beat you to it.

I turned off a Rockest game for the first time during the second Spurs game.

I just didn't see the point any longer. There was nothing left to enjoy. The play was ugly. There was no hope of a comeback. The players weren't doing what they were supposed to. Nothing. Not even an individual spark. I can watch losing. But I can't watch losing when there's not even a bright spot.

 

No heart.

If we don't break out to an early lead, we crumble.

And even when we DO have a lead, we don't hold it in the 4th.

Can't play with pressure. Give up early. That's the scouting report on the Rockets.

 

I read a book to my daughter instead of watching the Rockets with her. And we played chess on the computer. Good times. I've turned down free tickets 3 times this year. No thanks.

I think we will watch some ball, she really enjoys that. But no more Rockets until after the trade. It's bad for her. I know it's bad for me.

 

welcome to the 2003 NBA regular season...the whole country is turning it off, best i can tell. unwatchable without a rooting interest. and even with a rooting interest, it ain't that great.