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Iraqi Prof: Resistance to US likely to grow wo Sadam

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  1. glynch

    glynch Contributing Member

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    It is troubling to see the US occupation doing things like firing elected university presidents and otlawing trade unions while claiming to believe in dmocracy.
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    Resistance to occupation will grow

    Sami Ramadani
    Monday December 15, 2003
    The Guardian

    The joy was deep, but the pain, too, was overwhelming as I remembered relatives and friends who lost their lives opposing Saddam's tyranny or in his wars.
    I remember my disappeared and dearest school friend, Hazim, whom I hugged goodbye in 1969 at the canteen of the college of medicine in Baghdad. I never saw him again. Although only 15, Hazim had the courage to distribute anti-Ba'athist leaflets at our school in Baghdad within months of the 1963 CIA-backed coup that brought the Ba'athists to power. I remember, too, my dear friend Ghassan, who died in a hospital in Canada after many years in exile. He didn't live to see the moment he had waited so long for.

    But here it was, at last: Saddam's surrender in ignominy. However, this delightful moment - enjoyed by all the Iraqis I spoke to as the news of his capture was breaking - was soured by the fact that it was Iraq's newly appointed tyrant, Paul Bremer, doing the boasting: "Ladies and gentlemen... we got him!"

    What will the Americans do with their captive? Is Saddam going to face a trial? Will the truth of his mass murders and crimes come out? Will the trial shed light on how the US backed him and supplied him with chemical weapons? Will it reveal how the US encouraged him to launch the war on Iran, causing the death of a million Iranians and Iraqis? Will the trial go into the alliances with and support for Saddam by so many of members and parties now in the US-appointed Iraqi Governing Council? The dark clouds over Iraq haven't lifted yet.

    Thousands of Iraqi civilians have been killed by the US-led unjust and immoral war, and the death toll continues to rise as innocent people are being killed in US military raids, bombardments and Sharon-style collective punishment, and harmed by the depleted uranium shells used by the US-led forces. So at this moment of joy, other questions keep intruding: Who is going to try Bremer, Bush, Rumsfeld and Blair? Will Iraq ever be free?

    One thing I do know: Saddam was not leading the resistance from his dirty little hole. This was acknowledged yesterday by an unlikely source - Sherif bin Ali, a relative of the last Iraqi king, Faisal II, and a strong supporter of the US-led invasion. "The truth must be spelt out," he said, "Saddam has nothing to do with the resistance. His cowardly surrender confirms what we have known all along... It is time to negotiate with the resistance. It is time to call on the resistance to declare a truce."

    It has suited the US to blame Saddam for the resistance to the occupation and to use him as a pretext for the continued occupation. But Bin Ali is merely confirming what the CIA and US Congress sources have recently confirmed: that there are no less than 15 organisations involved in the resistance, which enjoys widespread support. A recent CIA report admitted that, "there are thousands in the resistance - not just a core of Ba'athists", and concluded that "the resistance is broad, strong and getting stronger".

    Saddam's surrender is likely to embolden the political forces in Iraq which, until now, feared that a call for the immediate end to the occupation might help Saddam return to power.

    The largely peaceful resistance in Baghdad and the so-called Shia areas of Iraq will also attract greater attention. In the past two weeks, trade union leaders in Baghdad and the south have been arrested. The occupation authorities shamelessly used Saddam's 1987 law barring trade union activity within state institutions. But such opposition will be difficult to suppress. This week in Hilla, a so-called Shia city, a militant but peaceful mass insurrection succeeded in deposing Iskander Jawad Witwit, the US-appointed governor. The thousands who besieged the governor's office called for free elections to replace him.

    Now that Saddam is no longer a bogeyman to scare the people with, trade union and other mass opposition is likely to increase, complementing and coalescing with the armed opposition.

    One demand is now uniting nearly all Iraqis, from armed resisters to trade unionists to Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani. Elections! And it is the one demand to which the US has refused to agree, because it has accurately assessed the likely result. That is also why it swiftly moved to stop elections of city mayors and why, a few weeks ago, it sacked the elected dean of Baghdad university after his outspoken criticisms of the occupation authorities.

    Saddam's ignominious end is likely to weaken US-led efforts to divide the Iraqis along sectarian and national lines. In memory of all those who died resisting Saddam's tyranny, the peaceful and armed resistance is likely to intensify and attract greater support across the world, including that of the American people.

    ยท Sami Ramadani was a political refugee from Saddam's regime and is a senior lecturer in sociology at London Metropolitan University

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    If Bush really wanted to free Iraq, he would give Iraq back to Iraq....right after restoring the services we have removed.

    But I think he made a few too many promises to a few too few U.S. companies (Halliburton, Bechtel). The more we destroyed, the more these companies could make in the rebuilding process.

    Not to mention how the Shiites would step in and how elements---our terrorists, their freedom fighters---would foment rage among the Iraqis who lost friends and loved ones in the invasion.

    What a mess we've made. At least we haven't taken it into Syria and Iran, despite how much the neocons wanted to do so.
     
  3. IROC it

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    Sure.

    That's why he gave Saddam a deadline to surrender BEFORE any "invasion" began... so these supposed "too many promises" would go broken in the first place.:rolleyes:

    And I'm sure you think that Red Adair's company had a deal with GHWB on putting out rig fires in Kuwait during Desert Storm.

    Please.
     
  4. No Worries

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    Saddam's surrender is likely to embolden the political forces in Iraq which, until now, feared that a call for the immediate end to the occupation might help Saddam return to power.

    I find this claim to be apocryphal. From the reported statements in this article that ~15 different groups were responsible for "the resistence" (none of which were lead by Saddam), one would think that Saddam's capture would have no effect on the number of attacks.
     
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    He tried to make a deal before the invasion, we felt it was necessary to go ahead with the attack.

    Saddam was not in any power position after the take over, the resistance will continue and probably grow stronger.

    Leaders of insurgent groups will feel they can become the new "Saddam" now that he is captured --- it is their gain in their eyes so the they will fight harder.
     
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    I just saw on the news today that several towns in Iraq were having spontaneous Saddam support rallies. That's not any good. I wish that the celebrations of Saddam's capture would have been larger, and created a rush of anti-Saddam sentiment that the whole country could have been caught up in. That might spill over to those who oppose the resistence that's fighting our troops.

    As is the jubilant but small celebrations will probably only equal or not quite equal the Saddam support rallies. I guess the folk he looked after did benefit from his rule, it's just too bad it was the expense of their countrymen.
     
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    Do you think that those scattered celebrations might be being carried out under some kind of threat? I find greater solace in the spontaneous ones we saw when the word of his capture first got out.
     
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    What evidence is there that the towns that are holding rallies to support Saddam are carried out under threat?

    I think the resistence would have to be way more organized and established to force whole towns to hold rallies for support. The celebrations when Saddam was captured were great. I was only saying I wish they had been bigger.
     
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    What evidence is there that they are not? I haven't seen the news story, but your citation makes it sound remote and small-scale. The earlier celerbations were uproarious and more on the scale of massive.

    No doubt even Saddam will still have his supporters. Who cares? So did Hitler.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    It was this morning on MSNBC. The celebrations celebrating Saddams capture were small scale, though very jubilent. I've heard that on CNN, Fox, NPR, and MSNBC. I just heard about the Saddam rallies today, and they didn't mention the size. They were in several towns, and as Saddams regime benefitted certain groups of Sunnis, they might be the source. I don't know so I can't say.

    I do know that the celebrations weren't very large, but that doesn't mean that more people weren't equally as hapy, but just didn't celebrate publically.
     

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