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Dishonesty of the Trump White House

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Feb 17, 2018.

  1. adoo

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...he-russia-indictments/?utm_term=.f1d6f07daa93


    Even by the standards of a White House whose chief executive has made more than 2,000 false claims, this new statement, on special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's indictment of 13 Russian nationals allegedly operating a troll farm during the 2016 presidential campaign, by press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders is a whopper.

    dishonesty claim #1

    "[Trump] is glad to see the Special Counsel’s investigation further indicates ... that the outcome of the election was not changed or affected.”
    Fact.
    This is a most egregious claim.

    Rosenstein said that there was “no allegation in the indictment of any effect on the outcome of the election,” but he did not say there was definitively no impact. He was merely saying the indictment doesn't address that — just as the intelligence community's initial report on Russian hacking explicitly declined to address it. And why would they? It's basically impossible to determine, and it has nothing to do with whether the law was broken.

    Administration officials including Trump have repeatedly claimed that the intelligence report said Russian interference didn't affect the outcome, and they have been repeatedly called out. Yet Vice President Pence made the claim again just this week. It's getting more and more difficult to believe they don't know better.​


    dishonesty claim #2

    "...President Donald J. Trump has been fully briefed on this matter and is glad to see the
    Special Counsel’s investigation further indicates — that there was NO COLLUSION between the
    Trump campaign and Russia and that the outcome of the election was not changed or affected...."​

    Fact:

    The indictment, in fact, says nothing about whether there was collusion, nor did Rosenstein rule it out during a news conference. Rosenstein did say that Trump officials contacted by the troll farm “did not know they were communicating with Russians.” Rosenstein also said, “There is no allegation in this indictment that any American had any knowledge.”

    But he was referring only to the indictment announced Friday. The indictment is focused on one troll farm, and there is no indication that it is the full extent of Russian meddling. (Indeed, based on what we know about the Russian lawyer meeting, etc., it's probably not.) Rosenstein also said the special counsel investigation was “ongoing.”

    This claim is extremely presumptuous and wrongly suggests that the indictment sheds light on something it doesn't.

     
  2. adoo

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    more dishonesty by the dotard,

    he tweeted today that he had never said that the Russians did not meddled w the 2016 US Presidential election.

    this only contradicted by his statement on TV in late 2017

    i've spoken to him (Putin) twice about it, he feels that the Russians did not meddle w the US election

    effectively, that was good enough for the dotard​
     
  3. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Biggest liar of all-time. ALL-TIME!
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    The guy just lies all the time. He lies more than any president we've ever had. Not only is it horrible for everyone, but it sets a horrible example for young people who are looking to see what the serving the nation means.
     
  5. peleincubus

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    It's evolution. And Trump is currently the highest form of it.
     
  6. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy

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    This is no Vandelay. Vandelay calculated his lies.
    Trump just can't help himself. It's like breathing but does he still believe his lies?
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Fight Facism
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    Honestly, he has the IQ of a sick cow - he needs to be taken to the glue factory before he takes the country down.

    Whomever voted for this idiot, can't be all that sharp - I mean Trump is neither a conservative, nor a Christian, - the guy is just an idiot.

    DD
     
  9. pirc1

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    Plenty people, just check this board for examples.
     
  10. NewRoxFan

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    An Epidemic of Dishonesty on the Right
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/parkland-shooting-hoax-latest-right-dishonesty-epidemic/
     
  11. LosPollosHermanos

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    He’s a pathological liar, evey body already knows this
     
  12. Amiga

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  13. pirc1

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    The problem is not just the people who are creating the fake news, it is that a large portion of the population believe that crap.
     
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  14. Amiga

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    yes --- "group mind"
     
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