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Locked on Jazz PAAC

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Samiam1234, Feb 20, 2018.

  1. Samiam1234

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    I heard locked on Jazz talking about this acronym PAAC (points above average created).. the number being very accurately describing a players overall value, with 0 being neutral. The number seemed to accurately indicate how a player is either bringing his team up or down. Obviously with Stephen and Durant leading the league with highest PAAC and Harden as number 3. He also mentioned practically the entire rockets roster have positive PAAC with the exception of Tucker. Also players like Avery Bradley and Robert Hood who on the surface seemed like have good stats, have negative PAAC which is why GMs wanted to trade them. I was not able to find this number in any advanced stats.. Does any one have a link or more on this particular stat. Seems very interesting
     
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    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Jazz podcast? Ban.
     
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    haha I only went on their to take their view on the rockets.. I go to other podcast channels when they are talking about rockets or the top teams :) so found his little formula pretty interesting.. I like how the formula has westbrook and Carmelo as two of the most negative players and the eye test seems to agree with that..
     
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    How old is that chart?!?

    Dwight Howard is no longer a Rocket...
    Chris Paul is no longer a Clipper...
    etc.
     
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    It's from 2015, when Locke first presented the stat. You can see that it is of his own doing.
     
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    Wonder if he has updated PAAC for this year. I saw a link showing 2017 I think.
     
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    in one of his recent podcast he talked about this years, how KD and steph are top two with Harden at number 3 at 3.3 I think, also CP3 was around 2 and Capela was number 8 which he was surprised at. He stated rockets are pretty much the only team that has all players as positive, which is why he thinks we are so good.. Steph has crazy numbers like 4.4 and KD is 3.6 together they are 8.0 which means even if each of the other players produce a net negative loss they would crush opponents.
     
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    PAC* greatest rapper of all time
     
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    Drink if you see Locke has tweeted about Donovan Mitchell.

    You'd be fully incoherent and couldn't legally operate machinery.
     
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    Curious on the formula.

    It looks a rather simplistic scoring efficiency stat made difficulty but hell im not that damn smart
     
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    I have respect for Locke. He created the platform for broadcasters of other teams as well. So @The Cat has a show largely because of Locke and Locke came onto Ben's show. Respect to that guy.

    Also, he should publicly post his formula. Otherwise it just looks like he's hiding something. He should post it and call it the Locke Score. That way if it sticks, his name is mentioned constantly.
     
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    From his explanation, it sounds like it would just be something like:

    PAAC = PTS - 2*lg_avg_TS*(FGA+0.44*FTA)

    If that's all it is, it's really just taking how efficient a player is as a scorer, relative to the league average, and scaling that by their shot attempts.
     

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