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[Washington Post] We asked 100 media members who the NBA MVP is. It wasn’t close.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Vindicator, Feb 15, 2018.

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  1. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    the thing is the BIAS is not even against Harden but against Houston/Rockets

    If OKC traded Harden to the Lakers, Harden should be at least 1 MVP by now

    Houston/Rockets are holding back Harden not the other way around
     
    #81 vlaurelio, Feb 15, 2018
  2. DudeWah

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    Lol. They did something similar last year and Harden was ahead by a hefty margin.

    He still ended up losing.

    This is just completely irrelevant noise
     
    #82 DudeWah, Feb 15, 2018
  3. Houstunna

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    If Harden wasn't unanimous, he'd be close.

    Does the media like Curry more than Harden? Yes
     
    #83 Houstunna, Feb 15, 2018
  4. Vindicator

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    A lot of things can happen between ASB and the end of the season. Last year, Harden's shooting % dropped precipitously towards the end due to his wrist injury and Houston as a team didn't perform that well in the second half of the season. This coincided with Westbrook making several big time clutch shots and leading OKC to similar win % as Houston after ASB.

    Of course this still didn't warrant WB winning the MVP because throughout the whole 82 games I think Harden's case was stronger, but WB had better optics during the last moments of 16-17 season (and recency bias is a real psychological effect)

    Could the same thing possibly happen this year too? Sure. If Houston inexplicably drops 12 straight games while Harden struggles to score, and LeBron and the Cavs suddenly go on a winning rampage, then the narrative can shift very quickly. This doesn't mean the straw poll is invalid; just that nothing is 100% certain at this point.
     
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    It’s likely invalid because the people who voted for this are generally not all (or even any) of those who actually vote for mvp.
     
    #85 DudeWah, Feb 15, 2018
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    I don’t think it’s Simmons. He has been giving everyone **** since last years MVP results were final for picking Westbrook over Harden. Claiming he was “on the right side of history”.
     
    #86 jordnnnn, Feb 15, 2018
  7. Vindicator

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    We just don't know that because there is no way to find out how representative this straw poll is. It could be 90% or 10%. No idea. But the fact that narrative shifted last year is not a proof of the invalidity of this straw poll, but has to do more with how quickly people's perception can change based on the most recent performance.

    I have no doubt that if the MVP trophy was awarded during mid-season, Harden would have won last year.
     
    #87 Vindicator, Feb 15, 2018
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    Last year Washington also did the poll and Harden won it too i believe, however not this dominated
     
    #88 khanhdum, Feb 15, 2018
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  10. RockWest

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    it'S really not fair that ESPN has so many votes. I suppose all the money they pay NBA buys them this power.
     
    #90 RockWest, Feb 16, 2018
  11. RockWest

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    Meh, Harden had huge lead on BBRef last season as well. Media doesn't follow logic unless it's blatantly obvious.
     
    #91 RockWest, Feb 16, 2018
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    I thought you were gonna say back to back runner ups...
     
    #92 RockWest, Feb 16, 2018
  13. Deuce

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    The problem with BBref is it does not factor in "narrative" and that is a massive component.
     
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    #94 lnchan, Feb 16, 2018
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    OMG... same article as the one posted above:

    What do you think changes in your MVP ballot by the end of the season?
    Chau: LeBron moves up and seriously challenges Harden for the MVP award. LeBron’s February thus far has been nothing short of magnificent, and it’s not difficult to imagine him keeping it going with his new supporting cast. And by keep it going, I mean averaging a triple-double for the rest of the season.
     
    #96 lnchan, Feb 16, 2018
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    #97 Deuce, Feb 16, 2018
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  18. RockWest

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    Harden has to have huge enough of a lead to leave no room for media to spin their narritives.
     
    #98 RockWest, Feb 16, 2018
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  19. Houstunna

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    James Harden will win the 2018 NBA MVP.
     
    #99 Houstunna, Feb 16, 2018
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