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Rockets not interested in trading Capela for DeAndre Jordan

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jan 23, 2018.

  1. Nook

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    I have heard a lot of knowledgeable people say it will be through trade. However I question whether the Rockets will be able to do that and deal Anderson based on limited assets. I just don’t see the Cavaliers taking Anderson’s contract. I suppose the Rockets could offer the Cavs two #1’s at that point and have Cleveland take Anderson and Tucker. That would allow them to hold onto Ariza and attempt to hold onto Capela. LeBron would have to play a lot of 4 or the Rockets would need to deal Gordon for a 4.
     
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    You dont like Jordan. Lmao.. I get it!;)
     
  3. K-Low_4_Prez

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    Is this really news??? Why the hell would we give up one of the best young Centers in the NBA for a Deandre Jordan?

    Hell if they were both on the roster I would start Capela over Jordan anyway!
     
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    Smoking dope
     
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  5. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    DeAndre might be able to outperform Capela for a little while if he's motivated again, but the fact is Capela will be the better player over the next 5 years, 4 years, 3 years, probably 2 years, and maybe even 1 year and at roughly the same price and at 6 years younger and has shown more progress in 4 years than Jordan has shown in 10. Clint's slow growth will mellow out Paul's slow decline. The league is getting faster, Clint is going to dominate and Jordan's only athletic ability over Capela is strength - an attribute getting far less important by the day. Even James Harden is making his bread and butter at the 3pt line now.

    I've said it a million times. If you make this trade, it better be because the superstars are twisting your arm, otherwise Fertitta should fire your a** in front of the entire organization for f***ing up a team so competitive with the Warriors. Some people have no clue what they are talking about. Stop thinking about small-picture bs. A title may require that we take more than one shot at these ba$tards. Capela is seriously the gift that keeps on giving and it won't cost anywhere near the max. People are stretching up Capela's price and stretching down Jordan's to make it seem like we would save by having Jordan lol. F that. We just show it to Capela's agent and negotiate a bit of a discount and move on. The last thing this team needs is a huge ogre of a C when both our superstars and our role players are not exceptional athletes, except in their own niche ways.
     
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  6. Cstyle42

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    Yeah that's DJ without CP3 and Harden. DJ would put up better numbers then Capela if he played in the role Capela is playing now. Only problem is the contract with DJ. Capela may improve later but he needs more sand in his pants right now.
     
  7. basketballholic

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    Here's the deal. The Warriors. Green at the 5, Durant at the 4. This is their small ball lineup. The key to it is Green in the middle. When teams try to match up small against him he kills them in the post. They spread it out and Green kills the opponent matchup. Look, Green is such an effective interior option that he can kill over half the starting centers in the league down low offensively. And then defensively he kills everybody when he's defending at the 5.

    This is their crunch time lineup. It is the single riddle that has to be solved to win a championship.

    How do you solve it? There's only two possible ways.

    The first way is you've got to come up with a 5 like Demarcus that has enough strength, length, and skill to hold Green in the post defensively and has enough offensive skills to spot up at the three point line and force Green out of the paint defensively. Demarcus is now gone. And we all know we're waiting to see if the Lakers release Brook Lopez for this very reason. Lopez would be a cheap option to throw at Green to mainly take him out of the paint and keep him from cheating and helping his teammates defensively.

    The second possibility is to eliminate Green's offensive effect in the low block and force him out of the low block and back out to the perimeter where his offensive game lacks. Does anybody really believe that Capela can do that? Does anybody believe we have anybody on this roster that can do that for a 7-game series? Does anybody believe that wrt have enough spare parts to throw at Green that in combination they can neutralize him?

    They're may be a few of us that do. Don't count me in that group.

    DeAndre is still one of the two or three best defensive centers in the Association. He has:

    1) insane length
    2) insane athleticism
    3) quick feet tidy switch and recover
    4) great strength
    5) great defensive intelligence in rotations, etc.

    Oh, he can't dribble the basketball. Big whoop. We're gonna be regretting CC dribbling the basketball if he's on our playoff roster because when he tries that stuff in the playoffs he's gonna get stripped.

    IMO, DJ in the middle defensively with Ariza/LMM on KD, Harden defending Iggy, and Paul and Gordon up top vs. Klay/Steph is preferable to any combo we can currently throw at the dubs death lineup.
     
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  8. MourningWood

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    There's this guy... in Memphis.
     
  9. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    100% this. This is what holds Capela back. He just doesn't play with "force" and that's a big problem. He is bouncy and moves well, but doesn't impose his will the way Adams or Jordan does.
     
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    We've checked on him before. No deal. Memphis hoping to land Doncic and add him to Marc/Mike.
     
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    Why have all of his defensive stats declined in the last 2 years, especially this year?

    I like Tucker on Green, he has the same strength and his quickness is close enough, he's a solid rebounder and he spaces the floor better then Green.
     
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    Tucker cannot handle Green in the low post. That's a mismatch the Warriors would immediately exploit. Love Tucker defensively 1-4 and against some big, slow centers. But that's not Green. Green is lightning at the center spot. Has so many tools and he's so strong against an undersized matchup.
     
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    Guess most of us missed the part where Green kills teams in the post. he may post up here and there but its certainly not what is making teams lose.

    Tucker was specifically signed here for his versatility to play against GS. Based on the matchups this year, hes done just fine
     
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    And why do you think DJ defense has declined so much over the last 2 seasons?

    And that's not me saying it, it's his numbers and it's most clipper fans.
     
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    1. Chemistry issue with Blake.
    2. Paul left this year.
    3. Some nagging injuries.
    4. No motivation.

    DJ hasn't lost anything defensively. He's still in his prime.
     
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  16. MourningWood

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    He's like the Andrew Wiggins of 5s, imo... a very smooth athlete, almost gazelle-like in the way he effortlessly glides up and down the floor, but he lacks that fiery edge/indomitable spirit.
     
  17. Deuce

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    I will say this, from the Clippers games I have watched, DJ does not look motivated. He looks like he is going through the motions.
     
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    Green would destroy Tucker bro... And I hate Green and think he'd be **** with another team...
     
  19. Batman Jones

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    Sounds great until you consider that it would inhibit our ability to go after LeBron. We need to shed salary, not add salary. Hopefully if we can land LeBron Morey will figure out a way to keep as many core players as possible. I would imagine Capela would be number two on that list after Chris Paul, since both are up for new deals this summer.

    I'd love to have Jordan playing with Capela. It feels to me like a lesser version of teaming Harden with Paul. In other words, it sounds great.

    Until you realize we'd be adding him at the expense of going after the best player in the NBA who we have a really good chance of signing.

    Would you rather add DeAndre Jordan or LeBron James? I think this one is a no-brainer for any fan.
     
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  20. basketballholic

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    Both.

    If Rockets trade for Deandre it's a sign that both Deandre and Paul (and Trevor) have agreed to play for cheap for one season to bring Lebron in. Trading for DJ is a plus in the race to acquire Lebron.
     

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