ClutchFans Game Thread: Pistons @ Rockets 12/6/2003

Sorry, if I got you wrong. Maybe I am too eager to let people know that I am not a Yao-only fan, or whatever.

Yeah, it's annoying to argue who is better or who is not.

To me, game execution comes first. We are happy tonight for the most part because the good ball handling and game execution. To see Yao get a double 20 makes me as happy as to see steve is really like a general on the court!

There is nothing wrong with it.

 

another senior try to be a judge without even take a short look at what others say? 'read to achieve', man, let me do that for you.

1.Are you telling me that Chinese pride doesn't influence your opinion on how the team should play?
-----you are talking too far. read the posts before you post a judgement, senior.

as for the answer, NO, at least not for me. When we support somebody, we support his team too. we applause for the player who plays the best, maybe yao maybe F3 maybe others. we blame yao when he plays badly, same to F3 and others. you don't do the same thing? oh well, hope you don't blame F3 for he's playing well and praise yao for he's underperform or reversly.

On the other side, is there any problem that this pride is also carried onto rockets, the team we support as well? yeah you support rockets for what? give me a reason. for living in houston? for that you have relatives in the team? for there's ur favourite player transferred to rockets? fine. everybody got a reason to support rockets, we support rockets for the reason of yao. Is that fine with you?

2.I mean, why do you root for Yao? Because you are a Houston fan?
-----again, too far. read the posts from page 8.

as for the answer, HOHO, man you really funny. why you root for Houston? because you are a born houston fan? we support yao because he is a chinese player who's doing well in rockets and NBA, then we become a rockets fan. but there's nothing to do with Yao only or F3 only....man, I am already sick of your talking about that again and again.

3.Houston fans, true Houston fans, wont be able to take it.
--------yeah, but again, are you a true born houston fans without any reason? because it scores 200+ per game only? because it has the best defense only? do you mean to exclude those rocket fans who come here for the reason of yao? man, think about it before claim urself to be a TRUE rockets fans. maybe want to say is a PURE rockets fans.

4.Houston fans don't mind that Yao has fans that root for him only (not the team). But when it starts to affect game strategy discussion (here) it becomes a problem. I mean if you want to say, "Give the ball to Yao" then at least give some logical reason for it. Not just "he's good" or "he's my hero" or "he's better than Francis."
-----where you read those comments from my posts so far? man, when people come here with predudice, they usually have clouds over judgement (as you said), or they see sth out of illusion.

5.If you come here saying "Yao this, Yao that..." be prepared to defend you position on why you think that way. And it can't be Chinese pride reasons.
----------I didn't say that. oh it's you who just said that. please be prepared to defend your position on where you hear that way.

and don't rush to a conclusion without any context. don't be prepared to go too far to a chinese pride reason every time.

6.Talk the language of *BASKETBALL.* That's what we speak here.
-------sure, may you talk more about BASKETBALL but not always CHINESE.

Man, as a senior, I respect your effort. But, do your homework before you draw a conclusion. don't always try to teach or educate without any respect to other's position or posts.

and again, don't judge too soon with your prejudice.

Do your homework first. Read others' post before u make a judgement.

I will appreciate that.

 

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thanks bro, but i could a handled 'em myself. tonight i may be a drunk pirate but lucky for them I'm a nice guy, I had my hand on my dagger, they should pray to mau tzu that I didnt let them have it to the hilt, because dead men tell no tales. arggghhh!

only kidding guys, go rockets.

 

Damn man, I really don't think this was the best time to pull out a Mau Tzu (I think u mean Mao Tse) joke. With the way the topic is going, in fact, I seriously question the wisdom of such a "joke"

 

yeah because we are from HOUSTON you,,,you,,,,,its about Houston and getting stuck everyday in freeway construction and about hearing Dave Ward say,'thank ya Marv' and about being flooded in the heights and about experiencing the kiss of death with a hundred jumping houstonians in a bar, and about Hakeem and Sampson, and Rudy T, and if you can say hey im not a houston rocket fan when Yao is not a houston rocket then i say hey hit the road jack and dont ya come back no more more no more hit the road jack and dont ya come back no more what i say, i said hit the road jack and dont ya come back no more no more no more no more hit the road jack and dont ya come back no more.

 

Maybe I aint got a sense of humor tonight or something, but if you're trying to play up the drunk angle for your ill timed "joke", it's pretty transparent. So please stop, I ain't interested in calling you out, aight?

 

call me out, i beg you.

 

I don't think TS is joking about the drunk part... Heh heh...

Woo-hoo!

 

I don't know what you are playing here, you just made me sick.

 

no its ok, let me catch my snap here and debate the hotballa. ive been waiting for this all my life. call me out, i only got to sunrise, c;mon with yo bad self. i aint never ducked nobody and i sure aint gonna start with hotballa, bring it on. and oh yeah pete chilcutt rules!

 

What a beautiful basketball game.

Go Rockets!!

 

Ok, I have had enough. What is your problem with me Mr DavidS? It seems that ever since I started to post on this BBS, you have been very critical on my opinions. I never bashed or praised any player based on my personal bias. So which posts that I have posted gives you the right to label me a "Chinese Pride" fan? I always like to give my opinions (which is why there is a BBS for this) based on the facts and back them up with stats. Did I ever say things such as "give the ball to Yao regardless if we win or lose? Next time if you are going to start crticizing other people, based your arguments on FACTS, and stop thinking that you can school other people with your poor and meaningless arguments.

 

I meant if he was trying to let everyone know he was drunk so he can pass off some ill timed remarks as him not being himself. Thats what I meant about him being transparent.

Maybe some other time we can "debate" about things Texas, perhaps when you're not drunk or pretending to be drunk so that you don't have to be held fully responsible for the things you say.

 

Tacoman82, Leave those arrogant r****ds alone.

 

block?

 

I wish you guys would just answer the question. Does nationality affect the decsions (comments) you make about the Rockets play? Not necessarily directed at you, but generally.

Its a simple question. Yes or no.

 

In my case, NO.

So, now, you answer my question:

 

Let Bball become an one-man game please, We only need one player in one team and all the teams can play one-on-one?

 

David,

On the other end of the spectrum, nationality or racial pride doesn't just extend to Chinese people, I'm sure quite a number of white folks out there were quite happy with Bird's emergence in what was becoming league dominated by more and more minorities. Also, if you visit the Slam (a basketball mag that caters to the urban youth) forums, you will see that a lot of people are likewise racially motivated when it comes to hating on Yao versus rooting for SF (trust me, go there, the stuff these peopel say is disturbing sometimes). I don't think that this question needs to be asked, as I'm sure the answr is yes, they are influenced by racial pride. You are influenced by Houston pride, they watch the Rox and since dont live in Houston like you do, what else can they idenity with? I suspect they dont answer you because the way you're putting it out there makes it seem as if you will jump on them about how they're not too "basketball" savvy because you assume they see Yao through rose colored glasses. I dont feel this is an issue that beloings in these forums because quite simply, it has no bearing on points of discussion in my opinion. If someone is going to come out and say "I oly want Yao to succeed at the expense of the team just because we both Chinese" the best you can do is ignore this kind of idiot, because they are obvioulsy exhibiting troll behavior. These 3 that you are speaking to direclty havent seemed to say anything like that in my opinion. They probbaly been fans for only a year or so, the only thing they can identify with at this point is their familiarity with Yao. Let's not try to pigeonhole everyone into a neat little stereotype, just because they speak of Yao, it might mean they only speak of him because they know most about him because they are Chinese also. You wouldn't talk to other people about topics you dont undertsand right?

 

If you are talking about "What is your problem with me?" Don't take it personal. Think "basketball" debate. It must be fervent and open.

We have to be allowed to debate even if we disagree.

If you talk about basketball and how it's played, be prepared to defend your position. But just because someone disagrees with your way on how the game should be played doesn't mean that "we don't think you are a nice guy."