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Behind-the-scenes progress by Milicic impresses Pistons

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  1. dragon167

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    http://www.detnews.com/2003/pistons/0312/01/d04-338606.htm


    Rookie, 18, responds to tough love from coaches, teammates

    By Chris McCosky / The Detroit News


    Clarence Tabb Jr. / The Detroit News

    Darko Milicic currently weighs 263 pounds, up from the 246 when he first came to the Pistons.


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    NEW YORK -- For Darko Milicic, the Pistons' highly-publicized second overall pick in the draft last June, progress isn't measured in minutes, points and rebounds.

    Not yet. He isn't getting any.

    No, progress for the 18-year-old Milicic is measured in terms of his size, strength, conditioning, work ethic and, perhaps most significantly, by his fortitude.

    And by all accounts, he is progressing remarkably on all fronts.

    "I really do think he's improving," said Pistons assistant coach Herb Brown, who works with Milicic every day. "He's getting settled in. He has a house now, a license and a car (two cars actually). That has made life easier for him.

    "He has really dedicated himself to being a better player, and to adjusting to the NBA way of doing things and to the American way of life."

    Milicic lives alone, and he spends just about every waking hour doing something basketball-related. He works out with strength and conditioning coach Arnie Kander before and after every practice and every game.

    If the team's game day shoot-around is at 10 a.m., he is at the arena working with Kander an hour before everybody else. After games, he is in the training room, riding a stationary bike and lifting weights.

    "Before I go to bed, I have to do 100 push-ups and 100 sit-ups," Milicic said. "I have to do this every night or I cannot sleep."

    Herb Brown tells the story of the Sunday the Pistons returned home from their four-game, five-night West Coast trip. The team had gotten back into Detroit in the early morning hours and the players were given the day off.

    "It was Sunday afternoon and I went into the office to get some work done," Brown said. "Darko was there. He said he wanted to do some shooting. The thing is, he didn't have his license yet, so he had to hire a private car to take him there and bring him back. That's initiative. That's being a self-starter and that's very important.

    "I took him to dinner that night. He's really growing and he really wants to get better and that's the first step. He wants to get better and he's willing to put in the extra time."

    His diligence has impressed everyone in the organization, especially Ben Wallace.

    "I told Arnie that he (Darko) needed to get in that weight room, and I set up a couple of programs for him," Wallace said. "He's been in there working every day. Every day."

    Stronger, faster

    The results have been unmistakable. His is a long way from Wallace's chiseled physique, but Milicic's chest is thicker and his arms are much more cut and defined than they were.

    He weighed 246 pounds when he first came to the Pistons. He now weighs 263. He came in with 7 percent body fat. That is now down to 5 percent.

    "He had a 24-inch vertical leap, which for a 7-footer wasn't bad," Kander said. "But he was always a single-footed jumper. If you looked at the tapes, every jump was off one foot. In the NBA, as a big guy, you can't be a one-foot jumper. There is a lot of two-feet, repetitive jumping. And he had to learn to do that."

    Kander said Milicic would be good on his first jump, but then fall off dramatically on each successive jumps. He would hit 24 inches on his first jump, then 23, then 17 and down.

    Now, Kander said, his first jump is 30 inches and he is able to keep his second and third jumps at 26-27 inches.

    "He's gotten so much better," Kander said.

    The one problem area that remains is his aerobic conditioning. Despite all his work, he still struggles to play at an NBA pace for longer than three- or four-minute stretches.

    "His stamina isn't where it needs to be," Herb Brown said. "But he is an 18-year-old kid who is growing very rapidly. I don't think his aerobic conditioning has caught up to his physical growth."

    Kander said the problem is partly related to his European training background.

    "He is just now learning about NBA conditioning," Kander said. "In Europe, he was used to doing a lot of slow, endurance conditioning. We do all speed work. But in the weight room, we slow it down and build strength. In Europe, he did just the opposite. He was doing real fast repetitions in the weight room. It's a 180-degree turnaround for him."

    Perhaps the area in which he has grown the most, though, is in fortitude.

    "He no longer grabs his arm or his leg after he makes a mistake or misses a shot," Kander said. "He is much better at fighting through things."

    No quitting

    That might have been the first lesson Milicic learned. During one of the first summer league practices in Orlando back in July, Milicic was really struggling. He was getting banged around and he was messing up one drill after another. At one point, frustrated, he grabbed at his ankle and started limping around.

    Not a single coach, player or trainer asked if he was hurt or if he needed to sit out. He was like a child seeking attention, and he was ignored. He was the loneliest player in the gym at that moment, but the tough-love message was clear. You don't quit, you keep playing.

    "He's made big strides," said Wallace, who has roughed up Milicic often in practice. "When we first started practicing, we would bang him up a little bit and after he'd miss a shot he would look over at the coaches, you know, because he thought he was getting fouled. Now I think he understands that he ain't getting any calls. We bang him up and he keeps coming back. He keeps playing. That's a good sign."

    It can't be easy to be the second overall pick, have all the hype and accolades coming in and find yourself stapled to the end of the bench. Not for a 22-year-old, and certainly not for an 18-year-old.

    "It's a discouraging thing to be the second pick and not be playing," Herb Brown said. "That said, a lot of people in that position would just be going through the motions, figuring two or three years down the road they would be playing. But this kid wants to play now and he's been working very diligently to try to make himself a better player."

    To his credit, Milicic seems to understand what he is up against.

    "It is not easy to sit there, but I am not frustrated," he said. "I am waiting and working. I will be ready."

    You can reach Chris McCosky at (313) 222-1489.

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    Size, strength, conditioning and even vertical leap, they all sound so familiar to us. Does Yao have the same work ethics? Do our coaches have any well-planned program to develop yao? How about teammates to help out each others?

    I hope we can we get similar information.
     
  2. Shrimpie

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    Someone mail this Yao Ming please. This kid is 17 or 18 and he lives alone, guess he got no personal translator either.


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  3. New Jack

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    Good read.

    I think the Pistons are doing the right thing. That is how you develop a young player, with tough love. No pampering and no excuses. And if the young kid crumbles, then he doesn’t belong in the NBA.

    No doubt when Darko finally gets playing time, he will be a well-polished, disciplined player.
     
  4. Launch Pad

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    If Darko continues to have a work ethic like this throughout his career, then I think I'll buy into the pre-draft hype behind him.
     
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    good read. just think what eddie griffin thinks when he reads something like this. although i bet he put some effort into things, im sure it was not like this though.
     
  6. michecon

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    Yao needs some of that.
     
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    I would like to know the same kind of data about Yao Ming...what is his vertical leap, etc., first jump, successive jumps, etc.
     
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    Believe me, Yao's vertical would be lucky to break 24 on first jump. It doesn't matter at his height and position though. His repeated jumps don't really matter much either. He just needed to get some upper body weight to take the punishment more. I'm sure has a good work ethic, but we've been hearing about Darko's work ethic before he was even drafted. His perspective from what he came from to where he is now probably has something to do with it. I hope he does well because he sounds like a good guy.

    The Detroit S&C sounds good. I've read a little about Falsone. He sounds alright although he follows Western Periodization. Yao has definitely put on weight though, and hasn't appeared to slow down. That's a good thing. Like at Texas, some of the football players bulked up and slowed down like maybe Selving Young. But you see Darko putting on weight and increasing his vertical and endurance, so they're doing some things right over there.
     
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    They could have picked Mello...
     
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    Damn experts. How many of you all have even seen Milicic play. If they had picked KG as a rookie this year, you'd say the same thing. I'm not saying he's going to be that good, but they're developing him. Wait 3 years before making stupid judgments.
     
  12. vunny1408

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    stupid , have you even seen him play? so how can you call him a bust when you haven't even seen a guy play.

    get off this board, all your posts have no justification whatsoever. just blind and senseless posts.
     
  13. Jebus

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    sweetie,

    Please shut up.

    Sincerely,
    Jebus.
     
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    Every Piston fan on the planet (myself included) knew Mello was going to star on Denver his rookie season, while Darko rode the pine. Heck, we knew this even BEFORE we drafted Darko. Mello is going to be an all-star, but Prince isn't a slouch either. And seriously, how does Mello make the pistons any different than Boston, Orlando, Cleveland, Milwakuee, etc? THere are a lot of east teams with all-stars of Mello's calibur, but they go nowhere because they have no big man to go to in the postseason. Darko is a feaking stud. Ive seen him play in Europe via videotape. His passing ability at 7'2" and age 18 is remarkable. I'm not sure how many points he could get, but if he could easily lead the team in assists right now just making passes out of the post.

    That being said, I knew know-it-alls like Jim Rome were going to slam Dumars for taking a guy that wasnt playing, but Joe was thinking long-term, and I agree with his decision. Most of these two-faced hypocirites are going to be praising Dumars for drafting Darko three years from now anyway.
     
  15. Drexlerfan22

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    Just to clarify... ain't Darko an even 7'0"? I've never heard anyone else mention him being 7'2"...
     
  16. MemphisX

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    It was a bad move to pass on Melo. The Pistons already have Big Ben, Okur, Rebracca, and Elden Campbell. They are on the very edge of coming out of the East and playing for the NBA title. By the time Milicic is ready Wallace will be deep in his 30s. I think when you have a chance to go for a title you do it w/o hesitating or thinking what might be later. Unless Milici is the next coming of Tim Duncan or Akeem(retro spelling:D ) or Shaq then it will always be a mistake. When you pass on a player like Melo for someone because of their size, that someone BETTER get you a ring.
     
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    It took the mid-season for them to praise Yao Ming. :p
     
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    Glad to see Milicic making strides. He's 18 (!) and under amazing pressure to perform (Melo and James are stars -- why aren't I?) and it would be really easy for him to just pout and give in.

    I don't know how good he'll be, but his willingness to learn, take his lumps and earn his playing time say a lot about his character.
     

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