Rape focuses critical attention on 'sanctuary' states

Agree this is manslaughter. Can they charge him for manslaughter after this acquittal?


Edit: just saw the post above. The jurors messed up then.

 

You really think so?

Maybe you are right in this instance. I mean it seems pretty obvious that this should be man slaughter. I don't know. It seems hard for me to believe a group of jurors would conspire politically.

 

Prosecutors didn't bring charges of manslaughter. He was charged with murder which requires premeditation. Plaintiffs made a mistake. Jurors did their job. The bullet ricocheted off the ground and hit the poor woman who was standing 80ft away. It was clearly an accident.

 

He was acquited of both murder and involuntary mansalughter charges.

 

Did research. See that now. Curious case.

Involuntary Manslaughter requires proof of negligence. It sounds like the defense proved:
1. The gun wasn't his (it was stolen from the car of government agent)

2. The shot that struck the woman wasn't intentional (it ricocheted off the ground).​

3. The man wasn't aware that what he picked up was, in fact, a gun
4. He couldn't be negligent since picking up a shirt is not inherently risky behavior.

Point 2 eliminates murder charges.​

Point 3 and 4 probably requires an eye witness to testify that the man was aware he had a gun and handled it improperly. So I assume the prosecution did not have such a witness. In America you are innocent until proven guilty so since they can't prove Point #4, the jury acquitted him of manslaughter.

Sounds to me like it was a tragic yet freak accident. There are shooting accidents that happen all the time. Dick Cheney didn't get charged for shooting a man in the face. The fact that this guy was an illegal immigrant has no bearing on the facts of this case.

 

The only time RussianLegend is concerned with rape is when he can use it to score political points. Otherwise rape away.

 

San Francisco s a Republican bastion

Free for all real estate prices

Everything about that city starts with rent per square foot

 

SF voted 84.5% for Hillary. 83+% for Obama.

 

You missed the sarcasm about real estate and Republicans and business

I'm familiar with San Francisco politics

 

They definitely gave this 6 time felon many benefits of doubts.

 

You make it sounds like that's a bad thing. "Benefit of doubt" is a core American value, or most free societies.

Besides, all his prior run-ins were non-violent offenses therefore they didn't demonstrate any sort of pattern relevant to this case. 5 of his priors were deportations so completely irrelevant to the facts of this case.

 

Conservative leaning individuals have this caricature of of an illegal. They equate illegal citizenship status with a higher correlation with violent crime when emperically no such correlation exists. For them, it's the automatic assumption that being here illegally automatically "demonstrates a pattern of behavior"

 

It would have been relevant in the sentencing phase. His lawyer did an outstanding job avoiding a conviction

Stereotype much?

 

How?

There is no relationship between the cases.

If I got caught for speeding 3 times and then get arrested for DUI, should my sentencing be tougher?

 

Nope. Most conservatives who live in rural America don't have any close family members or friends who are undocumented here. Most of them don't even know that being here undocumented is a civil infraction similar to driving with an expired registration. They believe to be here illegally already makes one prone to violent crime.

It's behind the entire premise of Sanctuary cities. The status quo narrative amongst conservative circles is that being undocumented correlates to more violent tendencies.