What do you mean? Are you incapable of understanding why the Warriors as currently constructed need Draymond more than Harden even though Harden is a better player?? Too hard for you to understand??
Everyone Drooling at 30% 3pt, 7 boards, 1 steal, 1.5 blocks?? What has this league come to Everyone tries to land a harden, curry, durant, lebron, and cp3 Then they add 3&d role player.. Teams look for super stars first Then wish they get a draymond green in the 2nd round
you seriously think Draymond Green is a 3&D role player?? what NBA have you been watching?? that's a crazy take. 10 players last year averaged 7 apg or more. Only 4 of those also averaged more than 5 rpg... Harden, Westbrook, Lebron and Draymond Only 1 of those had more than 1 bpg... Draymond. Draymond led the grouping in spg at 2. Draymond led the group in turnovers per game, by far, basically half or less per game than the other 3. Only 1 of them made an all nba defensive team. Only 1 of them, of course, was the DPOY. Teams need lots of star players to win. SI rated Draymond 10th in the league at the beginning of the season. ESPN... 10th. Washington Post (random, but they do a comprehensive list at the beginning of the year)... 11th. SB Nation... 14th. Bleacher Report... 11th ... yada yada GMs are absolutely drooling at and trying to get their version of Draymond.
WAIT... there are still people that think thompson is better than harden? This isn't even a debate, let alone a conversation. A much more appropriate thread would be harden v Durant. Delete this **** mods.
7 apg? thats a cherry-picked number right? he's just a P(assing) & D player then he's only averaging 7th in assists & ranked 10th because he plays in a Kerr system superteam which needs at least a Curry & Durant to succeed Even Zaza can have 6 assists in a game and 4 or more assists for like 10 games in a kerr system superteam Top 10 & Top 20 player can't even beat Sacramento LOL LOL GMs don't drool about 2 players who can't even beat the worst team on the league Stop dreaming. No one's going to trade their best player for 12 pgm Draymond but everyone drools about
you're basically arguing with the ranking and value of Draymond universally by analysts, media, coaches, GMs and fans... but hey, that's your prerogative. If that's what you want your basketball acumen to be, go for it! You do think Draymond is an average 3&D NBA player after all!!
he's not even a 3 pt specialist LOL the whole league is drooling for Dray while GSW will pass up on Harden & hold on to Klay Where's Harden, Lebron, Dray, & Klay here?
you wanna double down that he's a superstar? no one in their right mind will build around a team with only a passing/rebounding/defending Green or 3pt specialist/defending Klay. Dallas tried to do it with Barnes LOL did you see Harden, Lebron, Green and Klay on that chart? he can't carry a team by himself Harden can. Green can't just accept it. only superstars can carry a team by themselves so if he's not a superstar what is he then?
He's a top 10-15 player in the NBA. Not sure why this is complicated for you? Well... I am sure, it's because you put extremely surface level thought into stuff...
but can he carry a team by himself? Yes or No? I assume No amirite? unless you can carry a team by yourself teams simply don't drool over you so from Giannis you go to Klay and now Dray LOL
Who cares if he can carry a team by himself? In the history of the NBA there are very few players that can do that with ultimate success. This is doubly, triply, quadruply true now. Again, this, and your continued moronic comments [now we're saying Dray is better than Harden, no you go from Giannis to Klay to Dray]... speaks to how surface level your though processes are. I think you are incapable of understanding nuance. But whatever... keep on keeping on buddy. You've got anyone not a top 5 guy a role player, you think Draymond is completely replaceable, yada, yada.
Come on man it's not that hard to get @JayZ750 point. He's not trying to say that dray or klay are better than James, just that the warriors need a Klay or a Dray more than a HArden, and I agree. They already have steph and Kd to have an excellent offense, and it's better for them to have a spot up shooter and very good defender (klay) and a formidable defender who happens to be a very good playmaker (dray) Harden is on another level, but he is not the kind of player that they need in that kind of roster. you are free to have your own opinion, but you're acting like what he is saying is a complete blasphemy
It is not that hard, but tread carefully. You are entering waters where people can't think with that level (which as you note is barely anything) of analysis.
that's not what I'm arguing about he said other teams drool over Dray because he's a top 10-15 player media only blindly worshiped him as top 15 because he plays in a superteam with Curry and Durant in a Kerr system he can't even beat Sacramento with Klay if you were a GM of another team aside from GS would you "drool" and pick only 14 active NBA players over him?
Yes ABSOLUTELY! Not to carry my team, not to build my team around him, but if i want to contend he is the kind of player i want on my team because he can do a lot, A LOT, of things defensively and offensively, that can compliment the stuff that a superstar is supposed to do
I assume you're a rockets fan and agree that Morey's pretty smart & analytical and always want to contend if you are Morey and you have a choice to trade for anyone from the non garbage rotation as long as salary's match would Morey's wishlist have Draymond on top? I mean what rank will he be on Morey's list?
Is not easy to give u an answer to this question... it's a matter of fit and you know, we already have harden and cp3 and so Dray's playmaking ability, that's waht I value the most outside of his defense, would be more or less useless. He's not a perfect fit to our roster because in our system as a 5 is not that much of a "roller" as Clint; as a 4 is not that much of a shooter. I can't give you an answer because I really don't know in our current situation what kind of a player we need more, and who i would pick... I have to think about it
