[Coup?] Saudi Arabia arrests princes and ministers in anti-corruption campaign

Do you think MBS is doing this (and a number of other things) because he feels like Trump gave him carte blanche? Seems like it to me.

 

Gas prices??

 

Those in power learned from Syria, you can butcher/oppress as much as they like if they claim for fighting radicals, he even has giving freebies like women rights to drive and separation of Government/ religion ,he has Russia/US full support, surprisingly, most Saudis I know likes what’s he doing , seems like kinda cool to see a Prince/mega rich go to jail even when mostly is not so justified

 

So Trump has abdicated Middle East policy to a 32 year-old Saudi. How comforting.

My eyes rolled out of my head when they announced women would drive. You have to be a complete idiot not to see through that. But look at who we have in the White House.

 

I don’t see how Obama/Bush reaction would be-any different ,maybe it would be even worse, I think Bill Clinton historically is the exception . Our “sheriff in town “ is something Washington institutions were aiming for since decades ,its cheaper to outsource macro management of ME local affairs.Trump breaking peace -normalization of Arab-Israelis /making financial profit are his exclusive concerns, he sold Saudis THADS, Russian sold them S-400, pretty much MBS is ruthlessly covered

 

The Saudis were dismayed with Obama because he believed in talking to Iran. He seemed to realize Iran is more important, more relevant, more democratic and has a far more developed modern culture than Saudi Arabia. With him, I actually thought the U.S. was finally turning a corner and breaking away from having Saudi Arabia and Israel control our Middle East policy. I realize it was a very gradual shift over 8 years but it was nevertheless a shift.

W campaigned in 2000 on his very close relations with the Saudis. There is no doubt where he stood. Then 911 happened and 15/19 hijackers were Saudis. To this day, I don't think that fact has sunk into the American consciousness. The camouflage worked.

Also, W's policy of trying to isolate Iran was an abject failure.

 

well if you’re impressed with the Iranian’s regime then, MBS is the closest thing to the supreme leader.The main difference between the two is that Iranian will do the three steps of arrest-rape-kill their oppositions, while the Saudi find arrest is sufficient enough.

As for Bin Laden , he is a US veteran who went nuts, he could be a church mass shooters as well if he was culturally different. Ignoring Saudi early warning in the 90s led to 9/11, Saudi (as always) foolishly followed an American plan to defeat the communist ,written,dicrected by the US, financed by the Saudis but got all the blame ...personally, I would like them having independent policy , something more mutual

What’s Obama’s had giving to the Iranian’s regime is considered beanuts to what Bush had given them, 2 countires vs. sweet talk/ransoms , at the end of the day , they do respects Trump more than him, it’s unfortunate how his policies fallen into disappointments when it comes to foreign affairs.i mean they called him N*****r but with Trump they are disciplined dogs

 

According to this article, Hariri was "summoned" to Riyadh, had his phone confiscated upon landing and has been under house arrest since. The next day he was given his resignation speech to read.

Apparently he wouldn't confront Hezbollah because he doesn't want his country to disintegrate (my words). The Saudi goal is to replace Hariri with his brother. Members of the Hariri family were asked to travel to Riyadh to pledge loyalty to the brother but they refused.

Looks like the Crown Prince wants to turn Lebanon into Yemen in his proxy battle with Iran. No wonder he's telling all Saudi citizens to evacuate.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...rabia-turned-on-lebanons-hariri-idUSKBN1DB0QL

 

These are terrible events, but you are crazy if you don't see this is nowhere near the worst thing that's happening.

I also warn you to beware who you find common ground with on this: some people are mainly pissed off about the declaration of a move towards more moderate Islam and the implied marginalizing of clerics. These are not friends of rights, freedom or democracy either.

 

Going to war with Iran/Hezbo will boost his popularity for sure around ME and in Iran it self

This unrelated news does deserves it own thread ( in Persian Lang.)

https://iranintl.com/فرهنگ-و-زندگی/شیوع-ایدز-و-بیماری‌های-مقاربتی-میان-کودکان-کار-و-خیابان

90% of Iranian’s street children are tested positive for HIV due to sexual conducts ....do you think the Iranian regime does care about Lebanon more than their own children!

 

So sorry, but fundamentally i have more faith in the Persian people. Artists, poets, scientists, doctors, beautiful filmakers...hijacked by fundamentalists. Much like your people.

However, given the choice, i'd rather cater to their populism as opposed to the Saudis. Culturally compare the Persians you've encountered to the Saudis you've met...it's not even close as to who is more modern.

We're going about it all wrong.

 

We should be promoting policies that promote the centrists in Iran.

 

and by the way...hey Exiled, what have the Saudis contributed to art, literature, film or philosophy to the modern world?

Sad to be incapablelised by one's teachings.

 

for those who are outside the worshipping of the grand Mulla circle, only drug dealers/addicts would choose the Mulla regime in ME, Lebanon is sadly either a Saudi bar or an Iranian drugs farm ,not much of a choice , if it was up to the to people of Lebanon to decide, they would go into decades of civil wars, so ......they need someone supervision

 

Please point to your people's contributions to the modern world. Are you scientists, doctors, artists...do you even value such aspirations?

I think not. I find you pathetically lacking in development. It's 2017 & you've just granted women the right to drive. Bravo.

How blind can one be?

 

an Oncologist , American/Canadian Board

Now plz point out.... in 2017 ,can you even just pick up the garbage in Lebanon without the militants/cartels veto!