Australia is really racist. I have been there and felt wow, what an F'd up place. Racism is bad all over the world. Very open and without much consequence. The difference is that in the U.S. isn't considered unacceptable to say it in the workplace or by public figures. Some people say it's PC and people should be free to say racist things and minorities should not be offended if they are insulted racially. But to me, I think that people telling folks that this is insulting and offensive isn't a bad thing. How is knowing your actions is hurtful to others is bad? Yuri Gurriel now knows that it's offensive and can take that into account. Others can continue to offend if they so choose because maybe they don't care. What I don't get is why some people think that he should get a standing ovation because he made a racist gesture - as if it were a good thing and we want to encourage people to do this kind of behavior???
It literally made no sense and is in poor taste. It's not like Bob McNair received a standing ovation. Glad we agree on something.
He should have been suspended a game. I kind of feel he was given mercy because of the gracious response from Darvish. Doesn't seem right. Pull him out one game, and be done with it. Sends a clear message to everyone involved. Of course, that's easy to say now that we already lost game 4.
Except that doesn't punish him as much. They aren't getting paid by the game for this postseason. So suspending him won't dock his pay. 5 games during the paid time of the regular season will at least cost him some $$. Also, him missing a world series game punishes the whole team and not just Gurriel. However, if he had been suspended a series game, I wouldn't have complained. It's just that I understand doing it the way that they did.
Who the hell thinks it doesn't exist outside the US? Just because someone doesn't like racism (or what they view as racism) in the USA doesn't mean they think it is not an issue outside of our borders. I thought Americans were supposed to strive to be exceptional or better than the rest of the world. You have said things similar to this before and I am not sure what you are alluding to.
#1 I wouldn't say the history of racism is less in a number of other countries. That is just false and to claim that it is "less hurtful" is subjective and false as well. #2 Whether the history of racism is more or less in other parts of the world is largely irrelevant, the question is whether we as a nation will tolerate it.
I don't think that many people think it is a good thing or should be encouraged. Honestly, I think most people that applauded him did so because they wanted him to know that they still support him as an Astros player. He made a mistake and was punished. The reality (and I am included) is that most Astros fans are more concerned with winning the World Series than punishing a baseball player for looking like a jackass on national television.
I agree with #2 wholeheartedly. As for #1, I think it depends on the nation and their particular history, and previous steps they've taken or not taken to address the problem. Again making a joke about Tutsis in the U.S. would be wrong and hurtful, but I don't think it would be as hurtful as it would be to make the joke in Rwanda.
Look, applauding a player after they have gone through a rough cycle with the media to show support is fine. But calling for a standing ovation right after the incident seems a bit much.
So you support public shaming and public lynching instead of folks working it out privately. Very progressive.
I would advise that you check them out. Because zero of my posts have ever indicated that I believe there is no racism outside of the U.S. LOL
Well, your personal and uncivil insults aside, you aren't really helping your case. That post presumes that racism exists in other nations and speaks from that perspective. I went on to explain in other posts that making jokes about Tutsi would be wrong and horrible in the U.S. but it wouldn't have the same significance as it would if those jokes were made in Rwanda. I'll use an example that you mentioned in one of your posts about the Rape of Nanking. If someone from Sweden made light of the situation it would be offensive. But if someone from Japan made it, it takes on a completely different level of insult. It is brought about by someone that descends from those that committed the atrocity, shows a lack of remorse, and is more significant. It's fine if you want to disagree with me. I have no problem discussing the issue with you. But if you are going to start using ad hominem attacks and being uncivil, then it's going to be difficult.
