[Violence] Japan had 1 fatal shooting in all of 2015

I don't know anything about New Zealand. I do think that suggesting the problems the USA has with gun culture, crime, and violence are because of immigration and birthright citizenship is unfounded. Moreover, given the rather irreversible diversity we now enjoy, it'd probably be more fruitful to figure out how we fix our problems with the people we have instead of just wishing some of them didn't exist. Even without immigration, whites will be a minority in a couple of decades.

 

But despite all the scary refugees and scary illegal immigrants we are safer than we have been in the past.... safer than 60s/70s/80s/early 90s.

Seems like there's a lot of hysteria on both sides... seems like most of the gun violence in the US stems from a disasterous war on drugs...

 

Safer with more diversity... a scary thought for stereotypical Trump supporters...

 

You haven't shown convincing data to me. I said one thing and recommend you read something.

You are saying because gun is a much more effective killing instrument, there would be more homicide. That makes some sense. If you could look at attempted homicide rate, you can argue, probably at best, the overall homicide rate would be increased by that amount. I haven't seen that data. My guess is that rate is probably not more than the actual 0.35 per 100k homicide rate. Assume that hold, guns should not increase the overall rate that much (at best, 0.35 to 0.70 which would be a double, but overall still low).

Recommend reading: http://www.guncite.com/journals/dkjgc.html

If you don't know the author, don't research on that. Read the article first. I don't agree with all the conclusion, but the author paint a good historical reason for gun (weapon) control in Japan and along with that, some good information on the Japanese culture of conformity to authority/state which is part of the reason for a low crime society.

 

This is one of the stranger threads, and it took me a while to force myself to believe it is what it appears to be.

So the thread is started showing that another country with low immigration and incredibly restrictive gun laws has very little gun violence. Yet the purpose of the thread wasn't to talk about the country's gun laws. It was to talk about the low immigration numbers.

Yet, in the United States, we see that immigrants are less violent and commit less crime than national born U.S. citizens. But the OP is insinuating or stating that Japan's low gun deaths are not due to their gun laws so much as their low immigration.

It is very bizarre. I keep thinking I must have missed something. If so, I would be very grateful if OP or anyone else would explain it.

 

I think you are missing that immigration is the root of all evil.

 

Japan's murder rate once was 10x higher than it is now, which blows away the Japanese culture is peaceful (beyond the whole WWII thing and the slaughter of 30+ million Chinese).

Today, you have a 0.35 murder rate which is about what, 400 murders each year. Of those, 10 are done with guns. So 1 in 40 murders in Japan are with guns. In the states, it's over 20 in 40. So if you allowed everyone to have a gun in Japan, you would expect a significant rise in the number of murders.

Look, I am not saying gun control is the end all to be all. Socio-economics matter more in lowering gun violence. Immigrants usually aren't the source of gun violence though. Regardless, gun control does have a downward impact on murder rate. Gun control saves lives but doesn't stop people from having guns. Keeping semi-automatic weapons away from people isn't a bad thing. Keeping concealed weapons out of people's hands isn't a bad thing.

I think the way New Zealand does it is very smart where you have to belong to a gun club who sponsors you and the license is issued by the local police.

 

The thesis appears to be that diversity doesn't work and different races and/or cultures can't get along which causes violence. It's like the return of @Dei.

 

They be trying to hard.

 

Like I said earlier, a typical cohete rojo thread. What did you expect?

 

Be like Europe....

Be like Japan...

Does New Zealand have a disastrous war on drugs? The answer is simple... but you are trying to make multiculturalism look bad. Let's just be honest.