Reality is that white kid playing with a toy gun in a park probably doesn't even generate a 911 call. My friends and I used to play with toy guns at the park in our neighborhood all the time. Here's a hypothetical for you. There's a police offer taking a break in the park. He gets up and starts walking to his car. Suddenly out of the corner of his eye he sees car fly up on him and slam on the breaks. Someone is jumping out the passenger door screaming at him. In the first 1.8 seconds, what does the cop in the scenario above do?
No, I'm a realist who understands that my white child in our white neighborhood isn't in the same danger of police overreactions as a black child in a black neighborhood. That's the entire reason for the outrage. I know you desperately want to ignore this danger differential, but doing so only makes you ignorant.
I like that we are basing comments like that on "feelz" instead of reality. There are many, many people out there who would call the cops if they saw ANYONE walking around playing with what looked to be a handgun heading for a park. I know that doesn't fit the narrative that it was the boogie man of racism that is out murdering black people, but that was always a stupid narrative even if it is one that you "feel" is correct. When you have what looks to be a gun in public, you aren't going to get much leeway unless the people involved know you personally. If you react wrong, you could very easily get shot......that's just one of the reasons why children shouldn't be playing with realistic looking guns unattended out in public.
You may "feel" that to be the case, but I hope for your sake that you don't put that to the test and that you are a better parent than that. Your "feelz" won't change reality, and that reality is that if you let your kid roam the streets playing with something immediately indistinguishable from a real handgun, the cops are likely to be called and the kid could be in real danger if he reacts by doing anything other than what the officers tell him to. Again, hopefully you care enough about your child to never put them in that position.
Oh really? I seem to recall a bunch of nonsense about white guys marching around in stores with their guns out during the gun control debate just to prove a point. None of them got shot for it and in fact the debate was about it being their right to do so and all the people saying they shouldn't were snowflakes. Then a black guy gets killed for holding a toy gun in a store that was for sale lol.
Yet again, you prove your complete ignorance on this topic. Here is a picture of the Airsoft pellet gun that a good friend of my 12 year old uses when they are playing whatever games are analogous to the "cops and robbers" that we played when I was a kid... They run around the neighborhood with various and sundry "weapons" like this, some brightly colored Nerf guns and others like the one above, virtually indistinguishable from a real firearm. Not only has no child gotten shot over it, the police have never been called, not even once. My argument isn't based on "feelz," it is based on facts. Try again, rookie, I just love showing you up like this.
I think this whole thing is stupid but here's an experiment for those who really care and agree with Kap's actions. Bring Kap level politics and protests into your workplace and let cf.net know how it works for you. Don't be afraid either, remember you really believe in it and believing in it gives you strength to live it.
Just because something is dangerous doesn't mean it'll always end fatally....it just means that there is the opportunity for it. Given that they were doing so to prove a point, they were expecting the cops to show up, and they acted the way you are supposed to. That's the difference between it ending as not a big deal, and potentially getting shot. Again, you can keep trying to push the boogie man narrative, but there's just no evidence of it. Oh, well in that case, since you have an anecdote I guess that's just the end of the story right? LOL crazy kid. I've personally seen the cops called on a kid that was probably about 12 or 13 for having nunchucks at a park in a predominately white neighborhood....and you want to tell me that there's no way they'd have done the same if he had a realistic looking handgun? GTFOH.
This is such a stupid argument. The NFL isn't a "workplace." Why doesn't anyone make a thread about Tom Brady's unprofessional behavior and how you'd get fired if you did that in your workplace? Screaming at superiors, screaming at peers, screaming at officials there to regulate the profession...If I did that at my job I'd be fired. Why isn't Tom Brady? Why don't the owner tell that son of a b**** to get off the field?
You're wrong. It's a different and unique workplace but workplace nonetheless. But I can tell you regardless of how different workplaces can be the one thing they all have in common is don't talk about politics and religion. That is you unless you work in religion or politics but even those are echo chambers so don't talk about the other sides.
Nice dodge. It's a collectively bargained workplace that works under different rules than any normal person's profession. Again, go act like any number of quarterbacks who scream at people including their coaches and referees at your job. That "workplace" standard isn't applied to anything but this protest argument.
ALL teams have coaches and players who yell, that is a workplace norm. what Kap did was not a workplace norm because was the only one.
No, I have the reality of the situation. If you don't think there is a difference between the way that blacks and whites are treated by the police in this country, then you're choosing ignorance. I told my personal anecdote because it is indicative of the mountains of data which show the same thing, which is that the criminal justice system treats people differently based solely on skin color. Just a fact. Which didn't end up with the kid being shot because the cops didn't speed to within 10 feet of the child, screech to a halt, scream commands, then shoot after less than five seconds. You know, like it happened to the black kid who was holding a toy which wasn't even as dangerous as the nunchucks your anecdote describes. Try again, rookie, you're still mired in willful ignorance.
What he did didn't violate any workplace rules. The punishable offense in the NFL rules is only not showing up on the sideline. It says nothing about kneeling or standing. So, he did nothing to violate any company rules that are punishable. I guarantee you my company wouldn't fire you if they made us do a pledge of allegiance or listen to the national anthem and someone didn't stand.
There's a reason why corporations don't have scheduled events during the workday that invoke cultural expressions. The US workplace is supposed to be ripe with diversity and multi culturalism and is heavily guarded by HR restrictions in most companies to avoid personal differences that could cause conflict at any cost. At my corporate job if my company scheduled a seemingly mandatory national anthem salute or a prayer they would probably be in a murkier situation from an HR standpoint than I would if I decided to kneel for the anthem, not bow my head in prayer, etc. Anyone who says "try this at work" doesn't really understand corporate America. It's the most politically correct environment in the world in most cases. And it's not necessarily about political correctness as it is about the unproductive environment that comes from conflict. So to the poster who says "try this at work" ... I don't know where the hell you work but it sure as hell isnt corporate America.
he violated common sense and common decency. you reaching for "workplace rules" proves you know i'm right but just won't admit it. also Kap was never punished, he opted out of his contract on his own so please stop spreading falsehoods.
You sound like someone who's never held a job, I've worked for a few different companies and none of them had rules against discussing politics or religion at work. Just don't be a jerk and you should be able to discuss whatever you want. What are you even talking about?
The mental gymnastics required to go from this... ...to this are beyond laughable. The NFL is a different and unique workplace. The national anthem or pledge of allegiance aren’t said at our workplaces. And for those who work at schools, I literally saw people sitting during those all the time. We should fire those sons of b****es too, eh? And as someone else pointed out, what the hell are you talking about? Religion and politics are discussed in the workplace all the time. Workplaces don’t have that in common at all.
Never said he was punished and I'm not the one who brought up workplace rules. You are the one who said go trying to do that at your workplace. You are right though, it was a really dumb thing for you to have brought up.
