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I don't want the US to kill a mass of North Koreans. I just want them to assassinate Kim Jong Un

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by what, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. zksb09

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    To Nook's point:

    The attempts by the CIA on Castro's life are well known. Its not difficult to get the information via Google.
    Here is a link from Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Fidel_Castro

    "Following World War II, the United States became secretly engaged in a practice of international political assassinations and attempts on foreign leaders. For a considerable period of time, the U.S. Government officials vehemently denied any knowledge of this program since it would be against the United Nations Charter. On March 5, 1972, Richard Helms, Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director, declared that, "no such activity or operations be undertaken, assisted, or suggested by any of our personnel."[1] In 1975, the U.S. Senate convened the Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities chaired by the Senator Frank Church (D-Idaho). The Church Committee uncovered that CIA and other governmental agencies employed a so-called tactic of "plausible deniability" during decision-making related to assassinations. CIA subordinates were deliberately shielding the higher-ranking officials from any responsibility by withholding full amount of information about planned assassinations. Government employees were obtaining tacit approval of their acts by using euphemisms and sly wording in communications.[2]"
     
  2. Amiga

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    I'm sure the military is working on nature-like-looking micro drones

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  3. JuanValdez

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    We have had a ban on political assassinations for 40 years. However, per an Obama-era memo, a 'targeted killing' done as a legitimate act of national self-defense would not violate the ban. So, a regular old assassination of Jim Jong Un in peacetime would probably be unlawful, but if he were to make a credible threat to nuke the US (which he has already done many times), then he is probably fair game.

    Really, killing one guy isn't going to solve the NK problem, even if you could manage it. There would be a power vacuum and chaos, but probably some general or something would rise to the top of the heap and make himself the new dictator, and he would have to be even more brutal and more aggressive than Kim because his position would be less stable. I think you would need a more comprehensive defeat of the whole power structure there. And imo it probably would have to involve a military occupation by South Korea or China.

    Maybe you see people saying that. But, that's ridiculous. We have meddled in the politics of other countries more than anyone. I think the concrete proof is already out there, if that were even necessary. So, sure we're terrible hypocrites when we complain about other countries messing with us. That doesn't really make anything better. We still should not tolerate it. For some reason, some of us want to.

    As to the subject of when we have tried -- we've had decent success with assassinations of AQ and other terrorist leaders via drones and missile strikes. But those guys are probably more vulnerable than established leaders. Most of the outrageous attempts are from before 1976. We switched to missile strikes after that, and I think most cases were against leaders with whom we were in open conflict -- Saddam, Milosevic, Al Qaeda.
     
  4. mtbrays

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    I can't imagine anyone could get close enough to Kim Jong-Un to assassinate him. Anyone allowed to be in his presence must be a hardcore party/family loyalist and even that isn't enough to prevent you from being killed by the regime (see: his uncle who helped ease him into power before being assassinated). I'm sure the intelligence community has thought of ways to do this, but the DPRK is the most insulated society in the world.
     
  5. apollo33

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    time to hire John Wick
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    I think they could do it, but it would almost certainly cause a really deadly retaliation that would likely involve the use of nuclear weapons. I think the only way you could do it even in theory would be part of a massive first strike that would try and take out all of the senior leadership and command of the country and the odds of success would be pretty low and the price for failure would be WAY too high.
     
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    oh that's brilliant bumpkin
     
  8. zksb09

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    Yung-T and FranchiseBlade like this.
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    USA wanted to do it, but failed. Killing Kim Jong-in would not cause deadly retaliation because general people do not like him, his fellow leader can take over his position too. Everyone is happy for his death except a few people.

     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    The problem is that the people who would care are the people with all of the power.
     

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