You guys have to be kidding me? The Bulls would blow Duke off the floor by 20 or 25 points, it wouldn't even be a game. In fact, if it went to college rules it would be EASIER for the Bulls to beat Duke, afterall these guys HAVE been to college before! You mean to tell me that the Bulls, a team that is used to playing NBA teams, isn't better then Maryland, or North Carolina, or Stanford, teams tht beat Duke? I know the Bulls are bad this year, but come on! We're talking about a potential massacre if the Bulls are on their game. It's the difference between maturity and being a kid. The Bulls may not be the best team in the NBA, but they are an NBA team. ------------------ See the three, be the three. [This message has been edited by RocksMillenium (edited April 13, 2001).]
So are you saying, RocksMill, that it is impossible for the Bulls to lose? I think there are many people here who agree that the Bulls are a better team, but how many games do you think Duke would win out of 10? ------------------ President of the Anal Retentive School for Jerks Hey, I wanted to be president of something, and I swear everyone took every other presidential position already.
oh they actually play against those NBA teams? Could have fooled me. The only thing the Bulls are used to is losing. But dang, they'll get the #1 this year probly. Too bad they have an idiot making the pick for them. ------------------ snap crackle pop
I didn't say the Bulls couldn't lose, they have lost plenty of times in the NBA. But you guys are looking at Duke's best against fellow college teams. The NBA is another animal, and the players you see now are bigger, more athletic, more refined and more mature then they were in college. Elton Brand and Duke dominated for the most part the year they made it to the national championship game. Brand now is FAR better then he was on Duke. Mercer is far better then he was on Kentucky. These players are more physically mature. The Bulls you see struggling in the NBA would dominate college b-ball the same way the Rockets struggling in the West would be in the playoffs in the East. Two different levels. You guys look at the Bulls losing in the NBA and see their bad points, and see Duke winning in college and see their good points. There is no way that the Bulls would lose to Duke because Duke isn't mature enough to handle them. Losing a bunch of games in the NBA doesn't mean you automatically fall to the level of the NCAA. And trust me I'm an NCAA junky, I like it better then the NBA, but no way does Duke beat the Bulls. They aren't mature enough, big enough, deep enough, and athletic enough to beat them. ------------------ See the three, be the three. [This message has been edited by RocksMillenium (edited April 13, 2001).]
So your answer to my question is, Bulls win 10 times out of 10 games against the Blue Devils? ------------------ President of the Anal Retentive School for Jerks Hey, I wanted to be president of something, and I swear everyone took every other presidential position already.
Another way to look at it : Crawford/Fizer and basically all players of their caliber put up better numbers in college then in the pros. Why ? Level of competition is higher. ------------------ "norm, would you like to buy an indian scalp ? This deal isn't gonna make or break me Norm, so don't jerk me around." Harry Carey "Norm, if I had a mohawk scalp, I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you."
In recent years, none. But that's because they haven't been around long enough for me to base my conclusion on. Personally I think Brand, Artest, Crawford, Guyton, El-amin(even though he was cut), and Ruffin will be okay players. But Brand and maybe Crawford will be the only good players. And i don't even think that Crawford will ever be what you expect him to be(Penny Hardaway) But Stacey King, Will Perdue, etc were pretty bad picks. Also, I think that Mihm will turn out to be better than Crawford and he plays center. There are alot more good PG's than C's in the league. A good center is a valuable commodity and I don't know why Krause passed up on that one. ------------------ Never Underestimate the Heart of a Champion [This message has been edited by vj23k (edited April 13, 2001).]
Remind me again, which of our lottery picks has been a bust? Heck--even the non-lottery picks look like they'll turn out: Artest, Guyton, Ruffin... [This message has been edited by gettinbranded (edited April 13, 2001).]
Yes, the Bulls would beat Duke 10 out of 10 times. One of the biggest things that people forget about Duke was that essentially they had a 6 man rotation, and that hurt them in college. That would get them slaughtered against the NBA. ------------------ See the three, be the three.
Based on this reasoning, there's no way the 1980 US Olympic Hockey team (college kids) could have beaten the Soviets. Obviously attitude counts as much as talent in a short series. To put it in basketball terms, is the difference in talent between Duke and the Bulls greater than that between the injury-plagued Rockets and the $80 million Trailblazers last night? And the Clippers are playing with what looks like the McDonalds' High School All-Stars and beating the Rockets 3 out of 4 (and the Spurs once) because they've got something to prove. Do the Bulls have a good attitude when they know that free agents are practically boycotting their team? And do the Blue Devils rise to challenges? Just throwing some intangibles into the mix. ------------------
Duke could win a game against the Bulls, but they couldn't win a series. It's like when the cubans took on the baltimore orioles. The O's should have won every game, but they lost one, they would have won the series though. (I think they only played 2 games) Duke MIGHT win 1 out of 10, but they definitely wouldn't win 5 or 6 out of 10.
They can rise to the challenge all they want, but wouldn't the Bulls do the same thing? And again, playing in college is different then the NBA. How many players have dominated college but couldn't even make it to the NBA? They couldn't even make the Bulls roster because NBA talent was to good! Yet the Bulls play that competition every night and compete pretty well against it. There is a reason why it's called college and the NBA. These are pros, and the Blue Devils don't have the maturity to hang with pros. ------------------ See the three, be the three.
sure. It's certainly possible. When I was in 6th grade, I played on a mediocre soccer team and a very good 4th grade team beat us in a scrimmage. Can Duke beat the Bulls ? Absolutely. If they played ten games though, the Bulls win at least 8 and prolly 9. ------------------ "norm, would you like to buy an indian scalp ? This deal isn't gonna make or break me Norm, so don't jerk me around." Harry Carey "Norm, if I had a mohawk scalp, I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you."
Also, talent gap between Rockets and Blazers is VERY small. ------------------ "norm, would you like to buy an indian scalp ? This deal isn't gonna make or break me Norm, so don't jerk me around." Harry Carey "Norm, if I had a mohawk scalp, I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you." [This message has been edited by gr8-1 (edited April 15, 2001).]
Technically speaking - 9.5 ------------------ Founder and President of the Houston Homers Club(HHC) - Are you a homer? Join now! The Rockets will be NBA champions. Believe.
Good point. It doesn't matter that much though, 9.5 or 10, it's still sucking. ------------------ Founder and President of the Houston Homers Club(HHC) - Are you a homer? Join now! The Rockets will be NBA champions. Believe.
