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The Counter-Protesters of Charlottesville

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by durvasa, Aug 16, 2017.

  1. RocketsLegend

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    I know you're allergic to facts but facts are facts.
     
  2. RocketsLegend

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    The future of the Democratic party

     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    So. So...all b.s. aside:

    What do you want? What should have happened differently in C-ville? What should be done to protect your next Rally?
     
  4. tallanvor

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    If Nazis are marching/protesting in a city then here is the optimal outcome:

    their opinion is allowed to be heard by all those who want to hear it. The dissenting opinion is also heard by all those who want to hear and hopefully many give a dissenting opinion. This can be achieved by speaking the day after, by putting a piece in the local paper, or even handing out flyers during the Nazis speech. Those who hear both opinions come to the conclusion that the Nazis are evil and disagree with their position.

    Assuming the above takes place then the police need to do nothing.

    What usually happens is the dissenting opinion shows up and tries to prevent the Nazi's opinions from being heard by those who want to. This usually starts as trying to scream over them but ultimately ends in violence (the DD approach). In the end, nobody hears either opinion during this.
     
  5. LosPollosHermanos

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    Lying welching POS. You deliberately posted that it was confirmed that the guy behind the car was Antifa...and never went back to retract it or apologize. Its clear that you like to lie on the internet as an outlet when liberal Larry is pumping away upstairs as you listen from your mom's basement.
     
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  6. RocketsLegend

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    You sad sack of **** accused bigtexx of posting something and when asked to show proof you ran like a little b**** and never went back to retract it or apologize .

    Hypocrites like you are the sewer of society. Block list you go shithead.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    I understand all that you said, and I mostly agree, I was not talking to you but thanks, though.

    It's too late for any of this, regardless. Buena suerte.
     
  8. LosPollosHermanos

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    I'm not going to bother explaining the former to some socially r****ded shitwad that can't handle grown up talk. The rest of the forum knows, redundancy ain't my thing. You fold quite easily when confronted with your hypocrisy, I like the one-two projection though. Throwing it back at me doesn't lessen your burden btw.

    Now the most important question, does Liberal Larry make you buy his magnums?
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Your personal attacks are not acceptable.
     
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    The cops should have done their jobs and kept the two sides separated like they did in Boston. By allowing AntiFa to attack the pre-planned and approved march and demonstration, the cops essentially created a toxic atmosphere. Even if it is scumbags exercising their right to free speech, you can't allow them to be attacked or things will get out of control like they did in Charlottsville.

    Another thing that would help eliminate the issue is if there were rules preventing the wearing of masks that conceal your identity at events like that. Rules like that all but eliminate the AntiFa presence which will greatly reduce the chance of violence and make it MUCH easier to identify and go after anyone who would get violent anyway.

    I know i largely mentioned AntiFa given that they are the group that is just constantly violent every time they show up to a protest or demonstration, but the rules and procedures would work to prevent violence from ANY group and make it much easier to identify and lock up members of ANY group that would be violent.
     
  11. dobro1229

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    For the thousandth time... Antifa hates the Democratic party. They are very clear about this.

    And Antifa finally getting some folks arrested is good. It should show the Right Wing conspirators that there's not some grand conspiracy protecting these guys as some sort of secret society uprising waiting to pull a coupe on Trump, kill Christians, and install Sharia law. In fact, the rule of law does exist, and no need for Trump to claim Martial Law to kill all of us liberals who are about to start a civil war.

    (Before I start my civil war, and coupe on Trump, can I please go pick up my Kale Smoothie first? Thanks)

    Also... Yes RussianLegend for sometime following Charlottesville was spewing conspiracy theory that the driver of the car was Antifa. Thats common knowledge here without even having to look that up. Not sure why he's even trying to waste time convincing people he did anything other than that.
     
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    No one said they support Dems but if you ask all of who they supported in the election 90 percent of them would say, Bernie. Antifa is a far leftist hate group.Leftists need to denounce Antifa or they're just enabling them and denouncing doesn't mean ignoring them and saying they have nothing to with the left which they clearly do.
     
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    They have. I have. How many times have I posted in the past 3 weeks where the term Idiot and Antifa is in the same sentence? WTF do you want them to do? What do you want me to do?.... Seriously... what would the Democratic elected officials, other left groups, and liberal citizens need to do to make YOU happy enough with the response from 60% of the population of the United States with the actions of Antifa?

    Nothing... because you NEED Antifa just as Donald Trump needs Antifa if he wants to consolidate power (either that or a real terrorist attack) just as other wannabe facists have become real facists because of groups like Antifa giving those wannabe facists real power.

    You personally, as an internet troll, need some sort of equivalence to have any relevance to the conversation. You need them to be as bad as your side can be just so you can bait and spark divisions in order to create conflict. Its the markings of a bonafide internet troll, whatever the right wing is trying to pass off as news nowadays, and the 5 year old in recess that says to the other kid "I know you are but what am I?"

    And yes... even when you say "no one said they support Dems" you on the other hand draw conclusion after conclusion in your posts that the Democratic party, and anyone that voted for Hillary and the idiots at Berkeley burning trash cans are one in the same. You are full of sh#$ if you try to say otherwise. Its the whole point of your existence on CF as of lately to do so other than just straight up trolling.
     
  15. RocketsLegend

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    and how many times Trump denounced the racist groups and he was still labeled a ____ supporter by your side? Why does your side dish out all the rhetoric about Trump and Nazis but can't take it when confronted by the facts that their side also have support from the crazies?
     
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    I have a Trump hat but there is no way I am wearing it in public. I have a daughter to raise.
     
  17. bigtexxx

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    Well once again the liberals look like idiots.

    The people that Trump criticized on the left in C-ville...now the democrats are criticizing them, too. Pelosi and crew are denouncing Antifa. So Trump was correct about there being some bad people on both sides.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    "Good people on both sides"

    Would he say that to a group of people who marched along side a SELF-LABELED ISIS support group?
     
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    "Many Sides" was the closet thing to a mainstream endorsement moment we have ever seen of the White Supremecy movement. We all saw you cheering like a giddy school girl that day. The poling the days after showed a large majority of Americans agreed that what he did was very wrong and you have no credibility if you try to argue otherwise.

    Actually ... you don't have credibility anyways so we will just move on from there assuming you'll just pull some Limbaugh/Sputnick taking point out of your ass in response.

    Trump and Hitler get compared because they both specifically used and are using Antifa as a tool to rev up support from the far right and supporters like you are doing the dirty work for him like a mindless drone.

    Thank God Trump is not Hitler, not a mass murderer, and will never be able to weaponize our military like Adolf did but as a political tool they are doing the same thing and you are acting as his political foot soldier/Pro Trump Russian bot by using Antifa as a tool to equate and desensitize people to far right racial motivated nationalism.
     
  20. RocketsLegend

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    You want Trump to criticize the crazy on the right but if he also criticizes the crazy on the left he's using "Antifa as a tool". You sound extremely hypocritical.
    So far in the past 2 years majority of political violence has come not from the right but on the left. "Both sides" was an accurate statement because It's Both Sides but the majority is from the left.

    And in previous posts, you said you've denounced antifa many times, well here is my president doing the same thing over and over and over and over again but he said both sides so that obviously makes him a supporter of white nationalism.

     

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