Corporations like to hire Latin,Central American, Mexican immigrants for low wage jobs. I have been working general labor jobs off and on for about five years Some job postings ask specially for bilingual (Spanish/English) workers Part of the issue remains Americans don't want to work these jobs
In a practical sense low wage immigrants from south of the border require less in compensation than American workers. Immigrants come here and get hired. Its a two way street
LOL... the buzzwords that wingnuts come up with. "Preening". "Virtue signaling". As if presenting that your position is "virtuous" is somehow bad. As opposed to presenting a position that is morally wrong? What is funnier? I posted an article quoting a wingnut a page or two earlier where the very same argument was made... "see, need to stop doing public press conferences because the press does virtue signaling". Here's an novel idea... perhaps have spokespeople presenting virtuous ideas instead of morally reprehensible programs? You'd think the party that markets itself as religious (including pictures of pastors praying over the president and cabinet members in bible studies) would be able to present moral ideas? And while presenting your ideas, don't get into arguments over whether the Statue of Liberty is a symbol of America to the many immigrants who have entered the country (and those who dream of it one day). Especially with a reporter whose dad was an immigrant. Just a suggestion.
WTF are you talking about. Miller was at the presser to answer questions about changes regarding green card applicants...The presser is NOT meant to be used as story time for the MSM. Acosta underscores the biggest and primary problem that the media has today. THEY dont report on the news and allow the general public to make their own conclusions. Rather, news organizations today use their platform to impart their OWN personal views and present that as news. So instead of talking about the changes made to the green card policy, we are talking about the "exchange between Acosta and Miller." I dont need your advice on how to form a clear and concrete opinion. I also love how you call me 12, yet use juvenile words to present your stance.
Ironclad law of S&D? It's almost like a religion! Too bad for S&D religion, that's not always the case. There are studies that show it does not and some even show the opposite. Since "unskilled" is usually illegal, throwing those here... Illegal Immigrants Don't Lower Our Wages Or Take Our Jobs The very Borjas study the WH cited as justification for slashing legal immigrant in halves is controversial and same set of data studied show no evidence that immigrants hurt any American workers. There's no evidence that immigrants hurt any American workers Whether or not low skilled immigrant have a real effect (short and long term) on American, it also bring up the question of HOW many of the legal immigration is of "unskilled" and how long they stay that way. My guess is not close to a majority and more likely or not, they quickly become skilled relative to the illegal and even to the native.
There are no studies refuting supply and demand. All else being equal, the less scarce something is, the less each individual element is worth.
Well, we can all bullshit and come up with these other reasons for the plan. Or we can be honest with each other and call it what it is. Which do you prefer?
You've convinced me- we should ban the group with the highest percentage on welfare from immigrating into the country.
Yes, but in this case it is. I mean, come on, you guys aren't going to sit here and play this game of "this is what's best for the American people" right? You think Trump or Bannon really gives a **** about that? Let's just call this goalpost move what it is. You can support this for your own reasons, but I'm telling you right now that if you think this is about Trannon really caring about the American workers, respectfully, you're a bit naive.
I think most people here know that I'm not a Trump fan. I also generally disagree with the idea that CNN is a shill news organization. However, Jim Acosta is awful. He makes every white house news briefing about himself as he tries to push an agenda and pick a fight. He isn't really reporting, he tries to create news.
I'm not going to deny that wages, particularly blue collar wages have stagnated. I don't deny that foreign labor both in immigration and outsourcing jobs has played a role in that. At the same time the economy has grown quite a bit and overall wealth has increased. There is obviously a problem with the distribution of wealth in this country but I don't think keeping wages artificially high by means of limiting the labor market is the way to do it. Protectionism is a long term loser and restricting the amount of labor that can come into the economy will create problems. It actually is already given that in many industries they can't find enough workers to fill their needs. Addressing the wealth gap is a very complicated issue and one that is better addressed under other topics. Restricting immigration to do it though is a very ham handed and likely self-defeating solution. Except that one of the things suppressing inflation is cheaper labor and globalization. As you note for a 40 year period hourly wage pay stagnated which does contribute to keeping inflation in check. Any tricks that the Fed has will largely be limited if that other factor doesn't exist. No doubt at all that immigration has shaped us and has shaped this country since essentially its founding. I would argue, and the Wharton study I posted backs that up, that immigration is and continues to be a net positive.
There are several issues with wages Mainly cheaper workers Out sourcing American productivity is stagnant
Apparently we live in a post-supply-and-demand world. Don't fret, technology is "useful", don't fear it.
Note... this is david Perdue, one of the co-authors of the bll (first proposed in February, btw). You'd think the bill's co-author could come up with a more compelling argument in favor of his bill than "Na na, we are right because the other team says we are wrong"... GOP senator on immigration plan: Liberal 'fear mongering' means 'you’re onto something’ http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...an-liberal-fear-mongering-lets-you-know-youre
There are studies on the specific issue of low skilled immigrants on wages, and employment level. So you have two choices here. 1. The law of supply and demand you are talking about doesn't apply in this situation. 2. These studies which do show that there isn't a significant negative impact on the wages and availability of low-skilled labor jobs as a result of low skilled immigrants are studies that disprove the "ironclad" law of supply and demand. The studies shown do prove a point.
