Magneto's physical body has to still in the real world while he is hooked up into the matrix. I know I've read an old comic where he mentally fought Dr X in his head and used his magnetic powers outside his head to attack Dr X in real world to cease the mental battle.
The real deal is that the matrix has no code written to allow for mutants so there would be no EMP and Magneto would just be an old man standing around waiting for Agent Smith to make into Agent Smith. This is unfortunate because Magneto was the only guy that could hang with Godzilla after Loki went down.
Now, do you guys see why I had clods like Bundy, Manson, O.J., etc in the first round? It was to be fodder so we can set up classic matchups like Magneto vs Agent Smith! Don't forget to get your vote in if you haven't voted already as this round ends at 1:00 Wednesday afternoon.
Here is the best description of a Smith vs Magneto battle your gonna get out of me. But if you still disagree you need to debate it with me. Smith has home field. fine. this does not mean necessarily that they are in the Matrix, it however does mean that they are in the world created in the Matrix movie, or movies. I am also assuming everyone is using super smith as the smith in question. Magneto is pretty much the guy from the x-men movies as the movie world is easy to compare. now if Magneto was in the Matrix movie he would just be a guy in a tank creating electricity for the machines. His persona in the matrix would be some kind of smart guy and nothing more as we have seen no evidence of mutants in the matrix movies (or have we) if there is to be any conflict magneto must know something otherwise smith would ignore him. so we have to assume that magneto has been either pulled from the tube, or is concious of his actual powers. if smith is after him, magneto would invoke his powers. remember magneto is way smarter than Keanu Reeves could ever be. he may not know his exact surroundings, but he is surrounded by metal. even if just a knee jerk reaction magneto would tear up the incubator pods and he would be removed from the matrix before smith could hurt him, absorb him whatever. the power to controll metal is incredible in a place controlled my machines. after this magneto would destroy every single robot sent after him with very little effort. he would then travel to the machine city and tear it up. there is not a robot, machine car subway parking meter, whatever that could hold up to his powers. Magneto wins and barely even faces off with smith now if you are assuming that the battle must take place inside the matrix not the matrix movie wich in completely nuts. then I have to say that ther are mutants. sure if the matrix can have wraiths, if the matrix can have people fly, if the matrix can have people adjust ime than i say they are all mutants in a way. so in the matrix Magneto would have all his powers and again smith would be in deep deep trouble. smith had guns, stupid guns and magneto would send the bullets right back at him and dean smith. this could go on till there were no more smiths and again magneto wins. if someone says yeah but smith was too fast... watch x-men again. magneto can stop bulets man. and if ya wanna get technical, magneto has followers. so its not like smith is the only one with followers. again magneto has an answer for everything. thats all i got for now but this battle is over when magneto starts ripping the machine city apart.
VOR, That was a great detailed explanation of a battle that I knew would be a classic. Agent Smith for this tournament is the one that was in the first Matrix movie.
East 1) Darth Vader (has homefield advantage) 6) Dracula (has homefield advantage) West 1) Damian (has homefield advantage) 2) Godzilla (has homefield advantage) Midwest 1) Pennywise (has homefield advantage) 3) The Predator (has homefield advantage) Southeast 1) Agent Smith (has homefield advantage) 3) The Alien
I had assumed for the sake of convenience that each combatnant was magically pitted against each other, by the supernatural being Manny Ramirez, with little to no prep time? None of this rationalizing that someone has to grow up in a particular world to face someone should be necessary. Magneto's powers in the real world are irrelevant. If he somehow manages to blow an EMP, he just disables whatever has him hooked up to the Matrix and in the process kills himself by being unplugged. I concede that Magneto wins if Smith is completely neutered to his Matrix 1 form. But if we're going to do that, then let's be fair and go ahead and judge Darth Vader matches on how he appeared in Star Wars Episode One.
Even if Magneto is cogniscent to the fact that his powers exist, what if he is ignorant to the fact that the Matrix exists. Then, the machines would hold an advantage by being able to constantly manipulate the environment to their advantage. Couldn't the Matrix be manipulated to contain a huge electromagnet...stronger than Magneto's powers? Magneto's powers are contained only within a virtual environment and have no effect on the actual machines running the program (similar to any computer game that is based on reality). In my opinion, this battle is a no contest...Smith can easily control the homefield advantage and use it in any manner needed. Hell...he sewed Neo's lips together...why couldn't he neutralize Magneto's powers?
"Supernatural"? I like that, Anti! Darth Vader is the Darth Vader that was in "The Empire Strikes Back". Why? Because I said so, that's why - just kidding. Once again, the reason why Agent Smith is the Agent Smith in the first matrix is because the first matrix movie is the only one that I have seen. And although it makes for interesting reading to hear the reasons that some have for Smith winning over Magneto and vice versa, some of it is getting complicated. I almost beginning to think that Smith is like a Q or Beyonder type Just vote on the matchups the way you think they would go. Explanations are not necessary but entertaining to read, nonetheless.
East 1) Darth Vader * 4) Freddy Krueger No dream = no Freddy 6) Dracula 10) Darth Maul * Maul has a easy time here. West 1) Damian* 4) King Kong The evil one outwits the stupid ape 3) T1000 2) Godzilla * In a very close one the lizard finaly get that after he's melted he still has to be spread out. Midwest 1) Pennywise * 4) Khan Don't really know these two.....put clowns can be scary! 3) The Predator * 10) Lex Luthor The dream run ends here for Lex. I have no doubt that he can figure out HOW to beat the Predator ala Arnold. However he in no way has the muscle to pull it off. Southeast 1) Agent Smith * 4) Magneto GUYS!!! The matrix is a PROGRAM!! One in which Smith controls all. 3) The Alien * 2) The Terminator Minor upset but Alien takes him out.
well if we are assuming that mr smith is on the same side as the machines yes, but we did learn that the machines concidered mr smith a liability. the machines built the matrix, and they wrote mr smith, but they are not fighting the battle, mr smith is, and magneto would use his powers in the real world not knowing that he even did. as he would be reacting to the matrix world. the Electro magnetic disturbance would at least expose the matrix for what it is, and magnetos intelligence would take over from there. I mean if you are saying the the machines would maken a special holding place for magneto you might as well give every home field advantage the win. that means every home field contestant could set up elaborate traps for when their opponent arrives. hel the machines could make themselves out of no ferrous metals and plastics, but why would they do that. magneto without his powers is not magneto. so you gota give him his powers and smith is little more than a program that goes rogue. Tron can take him out, so why cant magneto
well vader never really seemed any more or less powerfull from the only 3 star wars movies that could ever possibly count. I mean darth maul was little more than a fencer with a glowing sword, and somehow he has gotten this far. he got beaten by a punk arse jedi who was mad. there is no way he would beat a vampire that cannot be killed by anything but a stake and sunlight and holy garlick water or whatever . Garlic is hard to find near a vampire cave. lightsabers are not stakes and the super quick poof im gont thing vampires pull is pretty sweet. oh yeah, why is magneto dead if he disconnects from the machine. he is now in the real world if he disconnects. and he can manipulate those hoses where ever he wants for neutriants and such. that dude is powerfull!! ok im done for now just entertaining myself
Most Vampire stories allow for death of the Vampire if his head is cut off. In the Matrix, if your brain probe is removed without first disconnecting from the matrix you die. Not to mention the fact that Agent Smith cannot be killed and just downloads himself into another host. Agent Smith rules with home court, and doesn't even exist without it. Did the Staypuff Marshmallow Man even make the tourney? If not I know he's gonna win the NIT.
1) Darth Vader (has homefield advantage) 10) Darth Maul 4) King Kong 3) T1000 1) Pennywise (has homefield advantage) 3) The Predator (has homefield advantage) 4) Magneto-the matrix has nothing on mutants, magnet verses computers?please 2) The Terminator (has homefield advantage)[/B] [/B][/QUOTE]
East 1) Darth Vader (has homefield advantage) 10) Darth Maul West 4) King Kong 3) T1000 Midwest 1) Pennywise (has homefield advantage) 3) The Predator (has homefield advantage) Southeast 1) Agent Smith (has homefield advantage) 2) The Terminator (has homefield advantage)
