If Lakers fans can forgive Kobe for quitting, why can't we forgive Harden for quitting?

I remember Yao frustrated the hell out of me back then. I'll never forget what Boozer did to him in the playoffs.

 

No, I mostly blame the coaching for that.

 

Fandom is a fickle beast... and I sure hate to go against our won players whether they be current or ex..... but could you remind us how many rings Tracy won for us? It tends to slip my mind and only comes up when idiots decide to show their idiocracy.

 

Kobe brought them 2 rings and an MVP after. Had that not been the case, I'm not sure that they would have.

 

I don't recall this happening. I do recall Yao getting punked by floppers a lot.
Meanwhile, I remember a game where only 4 Rockets scored (Rafer chipped in 6).
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200704260UTA.html

TWO GUYS PLAYED MORE THAN 14 MINUTES AND HAD OFFENSIVE RATINGS OF ZERO.

 

I can accept that McGrady didn't have the team around him for most of his time in Houston. However he squandered the opportunity with a legit line up in 09 with the maturity level of Dwight Howard. Didn't take his rehab seriously until it was too late. Killed a Vince Carter deal by announcing surgery through Stephen A. and never consulting with the team.

Try to pass the blame off to Yao if you want. But the one chance he got with a decent team we almost beat the eventual champs with him on one leg.

Harden has his flaws but even with those, he's taken this team much further than McGrady ever took the Rockets. Whatever happened in Game 6 it's over. We have a new line up now and new season to look forward to. You don't like him? Cool. But you know you were trolling with this thread.

 

Tmac has onion rings that he got from the sonic drive thru.

 

Dude shouldn't be allowed to start threads anymore. He's never posted anything interesting or thought provoking, no hot takes, just hot trash. Go to the mavs forum jabrony

 

Tmac not doing drugs and not being bankrupt after his career is a major achievement........

 

In the two Utah Jazz series, TMac and Yao were pulling a cart full of corpses up a jagged mountain while getting kicked in the face. And they ALMOST did it!

In last year's Spurs series, Harden single-handedly blew game 5 with bad decisions and then sulked in game 6, getting blown out against the Spurs without Kawhi. You can't equate the two.

 

By not forgiving, what are you guys proposing?
So he came up short without a lot of help. To me there is a difference in quitting like I don't care and running out of gas can't find another gear. I don't think Harden was the former. So there is no forgiving or not forgiving, just find him more help, which we did. Jordan didn't win until Pippen arrived, and Kobe didn't win until they got Gasol in the the second stint.

 

f*ck swyygyy he is a lame ass Mavs troll.

It's impossible to get banned on here though apparently.

 

So what are you proposing? Trade him? He is who he is and he probably can't do it alone all by himself. This past season, IMO, we over achieved. So far, outside Dwight years, he has been pretty much on his own. With Dwight, we did go to WCF lost to the super Warriors, so there was no shame in that if you ask me. Be patient, give him a little bit more time.

 

Definitely gotta take the troll's side on this one.

Losing while giving effort = sucks
Losing while quitting = much worse.

People point to the Toronto game and what not about TMac and say that he was faking his knee problems and didn't inform Adelman, etc etc.

The Adelman thing is a huge mystery, but the hate for getting surgery in 2009 is sour grapes. TMac was worth $20M/year and after that surgery moved his way down the bench and out of the league over the next 3 years; he couldn't even really jump at that point. He wouldn't make the decision to get surgery as a joke, or as some ploy to screw the fans, with years of $20M salary at risk. Heck, Vince Carter is still making appearances.

McGrady could still be around in the league, and Yao too, except for injury. To sit around and unequivocally call TMac a quitter is just the Clutchfans echo-chamber at work.

 

What makes you think he quit and didn't want to compete, b/c Tmac said so?

 

If you're willing to ignore ALL of last season to focus on one bad game, you're the kind of thoughtless person I don't want to talk to about basketball.

Yes, he had a bad game.

If that's the one you're going to use to define him, I don't respect your opinion.

 

Why should he get banned though? People are over reacting. It's not like this is a fake news thread lol.

Do we want to ban anyone that doesnt have the same view as us?

 

Define losing while quitting?
So not quitting = putting up 40 shots like Wesbrick? Then yall say at least he tried.
He had little help.