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Are we brutal we hope Yao will be more aggressive?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by china_human, Nov 16, 2003.

  1. china_human

    china_human Member

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    1:Yao has been so tired ,and you know aggression means more effort and more tired.
    2:As we know ,everyone life can't endure some many loads
    And Yao ming must learn the language.
    He must know the culture of America.
    He must learn how to get along with the teammates ,maybe and coachs.
    Many chinese fans hope He can quickly be a superstar.
    The china goverment hopes he can win glory for motherland.
    In order to get more rebounds ,he must train loin muscle and learn to find the good position .
    ...


    As a man from China ,he has so many things to learn .He is learning,he will be better
    But could he give us a smile again ?


    We chinese suffer so much affliction,and My best wish to Yao is that Yao can have more happiness.



    P.s My english is poor .Maybe some expressions are not felicitous.
     
  2. Shrimpie

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    You are dead wrong. We (the rockets, the fans, or for that matter, even his parents) should stop babysitting Yao anymore, otherwise he will never grow up. I am glad that JVG played him a long stretch from the 4th quarter today not like Rudy used to do. This is NBA, not a little boy's game any more. Yao just has to toughen up (I guess he already did which affected his touch, remember the first 4 missed shots at Sun's games, he tried to initiate the contact with the oppornents which is something that he didn't do very often last season.)

    Can someone tell Ming's parents to go back to China and let Yao Ming find an American girlfriend and live like a real man???

    Shrimpie
     
  3. china_human

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    Maybe you are right . In such condition ,Yao has to toughen up.


    But I just want to say he need learn one by one .
    NOw we can't demand so much ,so high.


    In addition
    A happy man = A real man?
    A aggressive man =A real man?
     
  4. DaDakota

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    If expectations are high, results are high.

    If expectations are low, results are low.

    Yao is a man, it is time he starts acting like one.

    :)

    DD
     
  5. AMS

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    Dude you're views are so skewed and are just plain wrong. Did you not read the other posts about the NBA "AMERICAN" players that live with their parents. etc. Get an American Girl, WTF does that have to do with being a man.
    And maybe if some of our team players lived with their parents they wouldnt be suspended right now(EDDIE, MOT).
     
  6. daNasty

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    Is that you Yao Ming? We've been hearing you've been going around posting on BBS. Get your lazy ass outta here and stop making excuses!:D

    Well honestly Yao is being pay millions and its his profession to do what's best for him and the team. WE sure know there are a lot of pressure on his shoulders more so then many players in teh NBA. It's a damn pride that Yao is and I have no boubt he will push himself to another level. That's what I love about him, the demeaner he carrries and his potential to succeed is pretty much in his control. He will get better no doubt. You can see the hungers in many people eyes here since the Rox havent made it to the playoff for 4 yrs now. Too much is demanded of Yao while he's been here for only a year.
     
  7. Panda

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    The fans had too much to expect from Yao this season. Some thought Yao was MVP material this year. The higher the hope, the bigger the disappointment. Overexpectation leads to impatience. Yao is getting more aggressive but the fans aren't satisfied. They want over night results from a 2nd year player when it takes years to develop a big man. We are not brutal in hope of Yao getting more aggressive, our impatience is.
     
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    He is among the lowest paid on the roster, man. If I were him, I would have worked to what the money worth.

    I was just kidding. Honestly, it is nothing to do with fatigue. It is more to do with culture. You can tell, he often let Cato or Francis get a rebound when in fact it is almost in his hand. Sometimes, he tips it to them or simply box out the competitor for them. It is a Chinese virtue. It takes time to change something you have been accustomed to for twenty three years. Just like his English accent, no matter how well he improves his English, he still talks in a slightly different way from ours.



    :D :D
     
  9. nyquil82

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    I wouldn't say that, his girlfriend could beat you up. I think they should have gotten someone tougher than colin pine to introduce him to the US.
     
  10. Rockets2K

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    Panda,
    I cant think of too many times when I agree with you, but this is a big one.

    totally and absolutley true, so many people had such high expectations from a second year player.

    Is he good? absolutley...
    Is he MVP material? not just yet.
    Can he be in due time? abso-frikkin-lutley.

    Im not saying we should make excuses for his bad play, nor should we raise our expecations when he has good games..we shoudl accept him for what he s...a good player that is still learning.

    face it folks, we aint going to the finals this year. I wish we would, but if you are expecting MVP performance from a second year player, and a team that is being broken of bad habits and training to play a new style....you are delusional.

    Lets all enjoy the ride and keep supporting them...hopefully they can come together and make us proud.
     
  11. robbarnett

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    I think that any player signing into the NBA knows that it is the best league in the world and should be fully aware of the expectations and demands that will be placed on them by the team and by their fans.

    I'm sure Yao knew that there was a lot of hype surrounding him before he decided that he was definately going into the draft.

    I agree with other posters here in that he needs to take it all in his stride like a man. We all have our own opinions on why is is playing the way he is, but in order for him to improve we don't need to hear any excuses or reasons. Constructive critisism is fine if it is used to make him a stronger player/person, but not if it is used a blanket to protect him and hide behind.
     
  12. michecon

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    Exactly.

    Seriously, some people just say what other people say, mabe they do what other people do also. Cna't blame him.
     
  13. laughdog

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    kinda agree. i have pointed out this in another post that yao grabs rebounds from the opponents and his teammates grab them from yao. although it is not 100% the case, it happens quite often times. i'm not saying yao is flawless in rebounding, in fact, he has way much to learn. but, if people can tell that yao is sharing his oppotunity of grabbing rebs with his teammates and is helping them build up their stats, i think people would not be accusing this guy that much, i mean, that much. guys, whether you have noticed or not, yao is trying his best to help his team and teammates look good while fighting his ass off against the opponents. can we deny the fact that throughout the preseason games yao was helping boki build up his confidence or his image in JVG's mind? yao was even babysitting boki in all these games, especially with rebs.

    again, i think yao does need to improve his rebs, be more aggressive, and try to be a monster on the court. but, does the current yao really play that bad and intolerable so as to deserve to be called a wimp? i don't know. but please take his willingness to share his oppotunity into consideration before you make any judgment.

    yao was taught to be humble and considerate back in China where he grew up. humbleness and considerateness have been build into him as part of his personality. before telling me humbleness is the worst thing on the court of NBA, please keep in mind that yao is humble to his teammates not the opponents. before booing yao for being outrebounded by cato or others, please take a look at whether yao is sharing his opportunity. Mark my words here: believe or not, unlike others, yao will never fight for rebs with his teammates, never, simply because what his culture and mom told him has been stamped into his heart --- always be nice and considerate to your friends. it's not about fatigue or aggressiveness, but all about what is in your heart.

    i hope yao could dominate the court some day. if that day really comes, i believe it would be in a different way that this kid dominates. if that day really comes, he would not be another shaq or another TD, he would simply be a gentleman who can play the best b-ball.
     
  14. maldini

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    When will Steve Francis grow up as a man and stop his senseless dribbling all over the place?
     
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    Like, maybe, an Ahnold type. ;)

    Yeah. Who needs dribbling in basketball anyway.:rolleyes:
     
  16. olliez

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    DD, he ain't a man until he's been with a woman.

    Just how much chance do you think he has IF he goes out with an American chick without being discovered?


    :confused:
     
  17. prlen

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    great post
     
  18. hold'em

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    while i agree with your points, here is my take.

    despite his "polite" BB demeanor, Yao is doing better than last yr. because he is still polite on the court, will not retaliate, NBA opponnets have played him dirty, more than last year.

    Yao is one sharp elbow away from serious injury---elbow to the back, rib, head , etc.

    Yao must protect himself, retaliate! his livelihood is at stake !

    the harsh reality in the NBA; retaliation leads to respect, politeness invites dirty play
     
  19. hold'em

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    My i suggest that you change your ID to

    "Chinese_dude" ;)
     
  20. wizkid83

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    I am perfectly willing to let Yao mature at his pace. We drafted him as a 3 year project, and people are so far from that now. Now that the media, 90% of the posters on this board and everyone else is demanding the change in the offense to go through Yao. Since he is getting the these recognition, he is gonna get the responsibility to be the leader of this team.

    Personally I think that Yao's being put in this situation unfairly, and a lot of that is coming from people that want Yao to succeed too much, without realising that realistically, Yao is still a few years away (especially cosnidering his stamina). I would love for us to slow him down a little, play a little less minutes and take of some of his pressure. But that's not going to happen and since Yao is being given teh attention, whether he likes it or not, he better respond.
     

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