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Chris Paul Traded to Rockets!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mikol13, Jun 28, 2017.

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Do you like the trade of Beverley, LouWill, Dekker, Harrell, 1st rounder to LAC for Chris Paul

Poll closed Jul 19, 2017.
  1. YES

    676 vote(s)
    88.6%
  2. NO

    87 vote(s)
    11.4%
  1. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

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  2. J.R.

    J.R. Member

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    Whose team is it? It is Wade's team? Is it LeBron's team? Can they co-exist? Will they co-exist? How will this work?
     
  3. Robert Kogut

    Robert Kogut Member

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    MVP means : The Most Valuable Player for his own team.
    This stat from march 2017 has own opinion about who is the most valueable:

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  4. YOLO

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    come on. it was chris bosh's
     
  5. Rox11

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    On god if these Houston fans don't show up and fill up every damn seat this season then we don't deserve star players!
     
  6. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Fans don't have a choice. Those tickets in the lower bowl belong to corporations don't they?
     
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    I dunno I'm pretty sure none of those guys on that list finished top 3 in MVP this season besides the guy who won it.

    Cp3 is the man he had the best real plus minus in the league this year.

    Fact is still facts.

    He's 6 ft tall and 32 years old.

    That means something.
     
  8. DavidRocket

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    Are you saying he's still an elite player or that he's aging?
     
  9. Robert Kogut

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    Because MVP today means : THE MOST FLASHY INEFFICIENT ENTERTAINING OFFENSIVE PLAYER
    It's a popularity contest
     
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    Some people go to the best BBQ joint in town, then complain about the potato salad.
     
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    yeah, if this can't get TC to be full at tipoff and loud throughout the game then there's no hope
     
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    I'm smiling because I did this after going to Black's BBQ in Lockhart. Some of the best BBQ you can find anywhere. Beef ribs, brisket. Just awesome. But I complained the side dishes were meh. Still, I quickly corrected myself, so I'm only half-guilty.
     
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    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Don't companies own those tickets? If that is the case, then the lower bowl will remain empty early in the season.
     
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    Our 3rd MVP caliber player?
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    Bradley Beal is pretty good right?
     
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    Harden has an extremely efficient and not flashy game game. Most fans from other teams and even many "Rockets fans" hate his game.

    He still managed to finish second.

    Also alleging that harden had little impact on the Rockets success because his on/off differential isn't up there with that particular group is fallacious.

    Harden generated the second most points all time missing the most ever by 1 point.

    He did that while the team also had the third best record in the league.
     
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  17. Daddy Long Legs

    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

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    $ where da mouth is :p you getter go to at least 10 when youre saying stuff like that lol
     
  18. Daddy Long Legs

    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

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    @Carl Herrera
     
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    [​IMG]
    :p:p
     
  20. Robert Kogut

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    Maybe for six man of the year because he's bench player.

    This statistic doesn't say who is the best but who is the most important for his team in terms of earning points.

    The real plus minus shows more accurate positive impact on the game in offense and defense without effect of bad bench replacement .

    1 LeBron James, 8.42
    2 Chris Paul, 7.92
    3 Stephen Curry, 7.41
    4 Draymond Green, 7.14
    5 Kawhi Leonard, 7.08
    6 Nikola Jokic, 6.73
    7 Jimmy Butler, 6.62
    8 Rudy Gobert, 6.37
    9 Russell Westbrook 6.27
    10 Kyle Lowry 5.88
    11 Kevin Durant 5.74
    12 Kevin Love 5.03
    13 James Harden 4.81



    I believe James Harden is one of the most unstoppable offensive players in the league and I like him so much. But he has also so big negative impact on the game so in summary he might not be the best.

    There are 2 extremely negative effects :

    1. defense : so what if he scores the points if lack of the defense will lead to open shots and easy points for opponent teams? If he would improve the defense the offense would suffer

    2. terrible amount of turnovers, almost 6 per game. Every turnover it is averagely 2.5 points because 1.5 from fast break to opponent team plus 1 point (statistically ) that you didn't score in your possession.
    So having 6 turnovers means -15 points per game on account of James Harden minus next 15 or 20 because of lack of defense.

    His negative impact is also amazingly big. Most of people doesn't care about this but it's still there. Chris Paul doesn't have any negative impact on the game because he has no weaknesses. In raw numbers those aspects are invisible but he's all time leader in win shares per 48 minutes together with Michael Jordan.
     
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