Exactly. A trainer visits him in the hospital. So apparently it is not a done deal that he won't be back...
If he took too many pain pills how exactly does that vindicate Mo? He should serve the full suspension unless he took the dose he was prescribed.
If, in fact, MoT over used his vicodin, then what? Is it punishable? As per the CBA, what exactly does it mean?
this shows that eddie has the desire to get his life back in order! that means his mental state is probably getting better, seeing as how he was feeling downtrodden just a couple of weeks ago.
maybe there is not a clause for how much vicodin an nba player can take, and that's why they are appealing expeditiously.
If that's the case, then I understand. But it seems to me that he violated the rules, otherwise he wouldn't be suspended. If the NBA made up new rules that is strange.
All drug test I am familiar with just check to see if you have the drug in your system. Are they really checking levels? It's not like Vicodin are going to wipe you out unless you take quite a few at one time. If this is what he is suspended for the NBA really needs to check themselves,
and if that were the case, the player's union wouldn't have filed an expedited request to challenge the league. they only get 2 per year, you know.... it looks like there's a grey area in the league's policy, and the union wants the league to spell it out before they punish a player for violating it. seems reasonable to me.
Have you ever had a herniated disc? A ruptured Achilles tendon? A torn rotator cuff in your shoulder? The guy shouldn't be human?? Are you going to "arrest" your grandmother if she takes an extra pain pill for arthritis because it hurts so damn bad? Something she has a prescription for? Mr. Clutch, I don't know what world you live in... it's not one I'm familiar with. I guess you've been lucky and haven't spent your life around people in severe pain or been in that condition yourself. Trust me... I wish I could say that has been the case with me. Mo may be guilty of a lot of things. I don't know. But if the problem is the scenario I'm discussing with Eric Riley and verse, then he's getting a bum rap, imo. We'll find out sooner or later.
If it is the case that he had too much pain then he should have gone back to the doctor and requested an increase in the prescription. That is how we do it in the real world, ESPECIALLY if you know you are going to be tested. Yes, there is some slack given to people in real life, I know doctors generally won't make a big deal of it. But this is the NBA, this is professional sports, and drug use is tightly monitored. And let's not turn this into a political argument, it has nothing to do with what I have or haven't done in my life. This is about NBA rules.
exactly. i was hospitalized for over 2 weeks with a subdural arachnal, subdural hematoma, and a slipped disc. they started with 4 vicodin per day and eventually moved on to 8 per day w/the morphine drip. after getting out, i was supposed to reduce the # per day, but the pain was much too much to bear. eventually, i was able to wean myself off of them, but when you need it, you need it. if mo's pain was unbearable, i'd have advised he take more than the script said, as well. and since none of us know precisely how many he took, i think we should give him the benefit of the doubt here. i doubt he was popping 15 a day. dude wouldn't be able to function.
Well if he did that's different of course. What I am saying is that IF he did violate the rules, assuming the rules are fair, then he should be punished. We have enough problems with drugs in sports these days, whether it's pot or 'roids, that the NBA needs to take a tough stand.
true. i'd like to see all of the pro leagues taking a tough stand on the rules that they have. but the expedited protest by the player's association leads me to believe that this rule is not spelled out in the CBA. it'll be interesting to see what becomes of this, not only for the rockets, but for the entire nba...
Opioids are used primarily for severe pain and often after operations or surgery. Examples of common opioids are codein and morphine. Vicodin is an Opioid consisting mostly of aspirin and codein. I broke two fingers 7 weeks ago. One of the broken fingers also had ligament and tendon damage that had not been diagnosed from the x-rays so when the splint was taken off, the finger was stiff. I could not bend it at all. I'll spare you guys what the doctor did to my finger to bend it but afterwards he prescribed Vicodin. (last week) Let me tell you, Vicodin works. I had ligament and tendon damage that I barely remembered existed after taking one pill. It also works within 5 to 10 minutes. There are different doses that can be prescribed but in my case, I was told to take 1-2 tablet(s) every 4 hours. I took 1 and did not need another one until the next day. I used a total of two tablets and have tried to endure the pain because more than anything, I didn't want to get addicted. My injury was/is not as bad as an achilles tear so I can just imagine the pain(I do not know about the shoulder though to compare). I think Mo probably built a pretty good tolerance to the drug because of past injuries causing him to take either a higher dose or more pills. In any case, Mo has to make a conscious decision to stop taking the pills. You have to endure the pain before it goes away.
Cool, I thought your comments about me arresting my grandmother and what world I live in were trying to steer us into a D&D type discussion. As far as the discussion, I will stand up for Mo if he is getting unfairly screwed. But he has been busted more than once so I am skeptical.
