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39 State electoral systems hacked during election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rockbox, Jun 13, 2017.

  1. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...h-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections

    I wonder if the government would release the information if the hacks actually had an effect on the election. It would cause distrust in the process that is the basis of our democracy.


     
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  3. Amiga

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    concerning to said the least

    The it's too many different systems to be effectively hacked and control didn't make much sense to be begin with. We are talking about a few dozen systems, if even that.

    I hope all can agree that it's important for the US to treat this as extremely serious and take appropriate actions to prevent future hacks
     
  4. Brando2101

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    You can't quantify a possible effect that this had. However, it's silly to think that the level of targeting due to all of this stolen information did not influence voters. What we need is for Russian hackers to target hostile GOP politicians in their primaries.



    Man, how sweet would it be to see warrants go out for 5-20 campaign officials. It be like:
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    We probably don't publicly know the full extent of the US response, but from what's been shared Obama's reaction had been too soft on Russia. And, if Obama's measures were soft, I don't even know what to call Trump's.
     
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    Trump is a weak leader and a pushover if he doesn't punish Russia hard for this.
     
  7. Aceshigh7

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    Ahh. More anonymous "sources", "people with knowledge", etc.

    The media has no credibility left after what they've done the last year and a half. If there are no names attached, it's typically made-up garbage. MSM has created so many made-up stories using nameless "sources" as a basis that they have lost the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    You didn't read the article? There are multiple names in the article.

    National Security Agency
    James Comey
    Ken Menzel

    etc.

    Bottom line here is that you don't know what the **** you are talking about and just made up a typical generic response.
     
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  9. wouldabeen23

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    From Bloomberg no less, that old liberal rag
     
  10. LosPollosHermanos

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    default response when something doesn't align with your schema
     
  11. SamFisher

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    And I think we can all agree that the likelihood of the current federal government doing this is zero.

    These sick ****ers are happy to discard American votes with Russian assistance.

    They don't want democracy, they want one-party rule of a small minority, loyal only to a cabal and not the constitution.
     
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    Without free and fair elections our Democracy is gone. If you aren't outraged by this than you are NOT a Patriot, and deserve to be called out for essentially being a traitor. If the shoe was on the other foot I'd hope Republicans would say the same thing to Democrats.

    I've had enough of Putin and his regime. Nobody has done more damage to the United States since Bin Laden. Imagine if Bin Laden had 40% support in the US after 911? THAT is when you know this country is in real danger. When will the Republicans in this country wake the F up?
     
  13. justtxyank

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    Fake News.
    Anonymous sources.
    Named sources are liberal scum.
    Named sources that aren't liberal are part of the deep state.
    Named sources that aren't liberal OR part of the deep state are just cucks.
    Trump is draining the swmap.
     
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  14. No Worries

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    Fake Russian Deep State News
     
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  15. FranchiseBlade

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    The article actually has named sources, so your post is inaccurate.

    But unnamed sources aren't always wrong. You are dismissing stories because of unnamed sources. Can you please point out other stories based on unnamed sources that ended up being completely false?

    Which stories do you believe the MSM has completely manufactured?
     
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  16. justtxyank

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    You're just wrong FranchiseBlade.

    Prove to me that any of the negative stories about Trump are true. Here are the parameters of what will be accepted as proof:
    1) Nothing on the internet
    2) Nothing from cable news
    3) Nothing published in American newspapers (clearly liberal)
    4) Nothing published in European newspapers (lol Eurotrash)
    5) Nothing from Al-Jazeera, American or Middle Eastern, print or tv (Terroristzzzz)

    Go.
     
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    It was done under Obama. What did he do?
     
  18. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    What about white nationalist newsletters? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. DERP
     
  19. TheFreak

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    To add to that, the increasing urbanization of the American voting experience is quite troubling.
     
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  20. dobro1229

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    Obama Imposed Sanctions, and kicked the GRU out of the country.

    These are sanctions that Trump & Co. tried to repeal when they entered office. Sanctions that Flynn apparently talked to the Russian ambassador about on Dec 29th, and Trump is also making moves to restore the Russian spy compound the GRU used to hack the DNC.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/29/us/politics/russia-election-hacking-sanctions.html?_r=0

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...be-paul-manafort-campaign-links-a7771386.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...f64b4fe2dfc_story.html?utm_term=.4b29d783fe0c

    The President has reportedly actively tried to undermine the punishments Obama took on Russia. The fact that you have the nerve to ask "What did Obama do" and then support Trump on his actions with Russian punishment as if he's doing something that Obama didn't do is sad.
     
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