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Blame Morey Not Harden

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dwhite, May 12, 2017.

  1. dkoune

    dkoune Rookie

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    Agreed, Morey really needs to start doing his job!
     
  2. Rocketeer4Life

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    Blame Morey for Harden's turnovers during the playoffs? Nah.
    Blame Morey for Harden deciding not to take any shots till too late in Game 6 of the Spurs series? Nah.
    Blame Morey for the slow slow pace of the Rockets offense? Nah.
    Blame Morey for missed defensive assignments outside the painted area? Nah.
    Blame Morey for getting a superstar with no heart? This.
     
  3. roslolian

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    Have you tried playing intense basketball games every other day for like 1 month straight?

    It's not just the mins per game, it's the fact that you have a game every other day, 1 day is not enough to recover from 4 quarters of running around and playing high impact sports.
     
  4. DreamShook

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    more excuses..
     
  5. DreamShook

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    I said we were 1 guy away from being a full team. Not necessarily a championship team, just a team That wouldn't be forced to move someone to an unnatural position. 1 guy away from maybe stealing a series because of (what I thought) was Harden's talent.

    I agree with what you're saying though.
     
  6. oelman44

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    I'ma stop defending Harden, but don't you dare blame Morey for any of this. I don't think he gets enough credit for what he's done, even though last night sucked he got us a franchise All-Time NBA Great through trade. Name me a GM that has created a team like this without getting lucky through the draft or super-team free agency? How many teams have treaded the 9 seed waters and then turned into a legit contender without blowing it up?

    Even if you don't agree 100% with his approach or his analytic-heavy approach, he is one of the best GM's in the game even if never wins a ring. The small moves, the big moves, the cap management, the drafting, the whole damn package. When you look at some of the other inept or lazy GM's in the league, really make you feel lucky.
     
  7. Mr. Space City

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    morey put the shooters around harden and harden didn't do **** with em.
     
  8. oelman44

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    Would you rather have the 9 seed team? I forgot beggars are suddenly choosers now too - hey, let me make an extremely lop-sided trade for a Top-5 player. Oh I forgot, this top-5 player has to have the HEART OF A CHAMPION or no dice.

    People act like the revelation Harden can't carry a team by himself to the championship is some big shocker. Only someone like Lebron can do that, and even that is an extreme long-shot. Add another superstar and there's no reason this team can't be a real contender.
     
  9. oelman44

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    3-seed, 55 wins, historic offensive season (arguably the best of all-time) is nothing? As someone who grew up liking the Timberwolves, be grateful with what you have. Many NBA teams are completely lost and directionless, and even though my Wolves are young and upcoming they haven't even had a .500 season since '04.
     
  10. Rocketeer4Life

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    So you're saying it is Morey's fault that Harden has all these turnovers, passive or iso offense and slow pace in a closeout or OT game? Another superstar will help only if Harden will be second fiddle to that someone with a heart of a champion. Harden's heart has been exposed to the world the last two games although some people knew this long before. Point is, its not Why the Rockets lost but How the Rockets lost.
     
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  11. oelman44

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    I'm not blaming Morey for anything, I'm saying its ridiculous to blame him for getting a star with "no heart". Considering where the team was headed prior to getting Harden, it's absurd to think we should have passed up on him because he doesn't have the grit/desire that some other players have.

    I think the best teams with the best players win the championship more often than not. Not the teams with the most "heart", though it is a nice additional plus. Point is, Morey is trying to build a championship-calibre roster, so he can't be worried first about personality. There are some exceptions - you don't want an absolute headcase or someone that will ruin team chemistry, but Harden seems to be pretty popular among the players and most people seem to enjoy playing with him (sans-Dwight).
     
  12. Rocketeer4Life

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    Like you, I actually think Morey is a great GM and has exceeded expectations this season. But Harden at the helm controlling 85%+ of the offense and turnovers will not work moving forward as history dictates. Harden's decision making, killer instinct and heart just isn't championship material to get passed the WCF. Does he need to be traded? Not necessarily. Does this mean he needs help? Definitely. But with someone who has at least as much or more power and influence to the team and game. And this can be another player Or/And another coach who has the respect of his players like Pop.
     
  13. the shark

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    The GM, the coach and the owner and anybody else affiliated with the team can only do so much.

    Players have to execute, they have to hit shots, they have to not turn the ball over (especially at critical times), they need to make the right decisions defensively (rotating at the proper time) and they need to play with passion and numerous other things.

    His "gimmicky style has so far never worked in the playoffs"? Don't tell the Warriors that!!

    Quit whining like a little b****. This loss will just free up your time to start complaining about how fat and unathletic JJ Watt is.
     
  14. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Shut up clown. The Warriors take mid range shots. You must be blind not to see that. As for the rest of your garbage. I'll just refer to J.R.'s post

     
  15. THELANDLORD

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    How long until we can blame Harden and not everybody around him. I can't wait till we get rid of everyone and the Harden people start blaming ball boys for not getting him the ball enough in warm-ups.
     
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  16. the shark

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    So EVERY shot the Rockets take is a three or a lay up? Maybe if you pull your head out of your @$$ you'll see that they take mid range shots as well.
     
  17. YOLO

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    i hope you realize the amount of mid range shots houston takes is minimal and the reason why those shots are even taken is a last resort decision on offense, based on everything else being not open or broken down on the possession
     
  18. knickstorm

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    ahaha who did you want MOrey to get? I remember D12 carrying this team vs POrtland late in games when Harden was a no show 2-3 years ago. THen they got sick of each other and that's probably what'll happen again with the next big man who wants shots too. Gobert and DeAndre Jordan's dont grow on trees. What resources did he even have to acquire a guy like Jurkic? Maybe CApela and that's it.
     
  19. FTW Rockets FTW

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    I know you're pretty dense and need everything spoon fed. Here is a shot chart from one of the Rockets games this season.

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    I count 2 mid range shots taken....TWO
     
  20. the shark

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    So you pick one game out this yr and that's indicative of every other game?

    I understand their philosophy, but again players have to execute. You have to make mid range and shots in the paint as well. Morey can only do so much but you go right ahead and blame Morey if that makes you feel good.
     

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