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Connecting the Trump-Russia Dots

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Mar 8, 2017.

  1. adoo

    adoo Member

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    on the day after the firing, Agent Orange is having a face-to-face meeting, at the WH, w Russian's top diplomat; this takes place
    after the Russian diplomat had a meeting with U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.
     
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  2. dobro1229

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    The video clip of a Russian govt official mocking our Press while the Secretary of State waves them off and smiles should piss off every real American who has an ounce of pride.
     
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  3. NewRoxFan

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    This little tidbit snuck in under the Comey firing... Trump is lawyering up...

    Trump Hires Law Firm to Fight Suggestions of Russia Business Ties
    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...rebut-suggestion-russia-business-ties-n757106

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...2635de9b69b209cf2b7fb/?utm_term=.b69e68b7c394
     
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  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Yeah, that felt like a "flawless victory, fatality" move against the American public, TBH. Made my blood boil. We are not dead yet, assholes.
     
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  5. wouldabeen23

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    In before the chorus of "McCarthyism" and "red scare" BS from the trumpanzees...
     
  6. adoo

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    the meeting between Agent Orange and his handler was closed to US media.

    But Kremlin did release this photo

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    The Russian Embassy in the United States later released a separate photo of President Trump greeting Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.
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    Kislyak is the diplomat at the center of the investigation into former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn’s potential Russian ties.


    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...eases-photo-of-trump-meeting-with-top-russian
     
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    Hmm, this might help explain the timing of Trump's decision to fire Comey...
     
  9. JeffB

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    Really, Putin couldn't have thought it would be this easy. Destabilize the global democratic order and undermine the U.S. while getting U.S. partisans and journalists to do heavy lifting for him.
    The picture with Kislyak is definitely a big "yeah, we know you know and... **** you" to everyone who has been paying attention.
     
  10. NewRoxFan

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    Kislyak was not on the list of people Trump was scheduled to meet with. Wonder why...
     
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  11. adoo

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    it part of Putin / Agent Orange's post-firing strategy.
     
  12. Rashmon

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    In the words of an infamous poster...

    TELLING
     
  13. Rashmon

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    Russia is trolling the U.S. over James Comey’s firing, accusations of Trump’s Russian connections
    Russian media — not U.S. media — gets to see Trump's meeting with an infamous Russian diplomat

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    President Donald Trump met with two powerful Russian officials at the White House only one day after his controversial firing of FBI Director James Comey.

    Although Trump’s schedule showed that he was supposed to meet with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov on Wednesday morning, the Russian embassy in the United States also tweeted out a picture of Trump meeting with their U.S. ambassador, Sergey Kislyak.

    Kislyak has been described by the American intelligence community as both a spy and a recruiter of foreign agents, although Russian officials deny that this is the case.



    While American media was shut out of the U.S.-Russia summit, Russian news agency TASS was invited in to take candid shots.

    Photos of Trump's meeting with Lavrov and Kislyak just hit the Getty wire and they're all credited to Russian news agency TASS pic.twitter.com/qE9lWB6KuS
    — Matt Novak (@paleofuture) May 10, 2017

    Earlier in the day, as Lavrov met with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, the Russian Foreign Minister gave off the impression of being surprised at news of Comey’s termination.

    “Was he fired? You are kidding! You are kidding!” Lavrov blurted out before walking away with Tillerson.

    “Was he fired? You are kidding!” – Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov asked in US about ex-FBI chief James Comeyhttps://t.co/IrFi991lJz pic.twitter.com/xbEnYQJJsC
    — BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) May 10, 2017

    On another occasion, when pressed about allegations of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign, Lavrov condescendingly told the reporter that “I thought we are all adults here, I didn’t know I would have to answer these types of questions in your democratic America.” Meanwhile Russian President Vladimir Putin was asked by a CBS Evening News reporter about his take on Comey’s firing. The leader, at a hockey game, replied that “your question looks very funny for me. Don’t be angry with me. We have nothing to do with that. President Trump is acting in accordance with his confident and in accordance with his law, the constitution.”
     
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    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/10/james-comey-firing-trump-lavrov-putin-215124

    Russia’s Oval Office Victory Dance
    The cozy meeting between President Trump and Russia’s foreign minister came at Vladimir Putin’s insistence.

    When President Donald Trump hosted Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in the Oval Office Wednesday just hours after firing the FBI director who was overseeing an investigation into whether Trump’s team colluded the Russians, he was breaking with recent precedent at the specific request of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    The chummy White House visit—photos of the president yukking it up with Lavrov and Russian Ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak were released by the Russian Foreign Ministry since no U.S. press was allowed to cover the visit—had been one of Putin’s asks in his recent phone call with Trump, And indeed the White House acknowledged this to me later Wednesday. “He chose to receive him because Putin asked him to,” a White House spokesman said of Trump’s Lavrov meeting. “Putin did specifically ask on the call when they last talked.”

    The meeting was Lavrov’s first in the White House since 2013—and came after several years of the Obama administration’s flat-out refusal to grant him an Oval Office audience, two former senior White House officials told me. “The Russians were begging us for years to do that,” one of the former officials said. “They were constantly pushing for it and we were constantly saying no.”

    The images of Trump putting his arm genially on Lavrov’s back—and a later White House official readout of the meeting that said Trump “emphasized his desire to build a better relationship between the United States and Russia”—couldn’t have come at a more fraught political moment for Trump, amid a barrage of bipartisan criticism of his firing of FBI director James Comey. On Wednesday morning before meeting with Trump, Lavrov even cracked a joke about his hosts’ political predicament, laughingly claiming not to have heard of the Comey firing while standing alongside Trump’s Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

    In other words, Lavrov was right where he has always wanted to be Wednesday: mocking the United States while being welcomed in the Oval Office by the president himself.


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    I just threw up in my mouth a bit...
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    So strange that the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES meets with a Russian official because Putin asked him to do that. Then The PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES doesn't allow U.S. media in but does allow Russian media. Putin would never invite U.S. media into the Kremlin but not allow any Russian media.

    Trump is looking weaker day by day.
     
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  17. CometsWin

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    F'n disgusting.
     
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  18. JeffB

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    Here is more:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...2beef8121f7_story.html?utm_term=.ff514e74341c

    Presence of Russian photographer in Oval Office raises alarms

    A photographer for a Russian state-owned news agency was allowed into the Oval Office on Wednesday during President Trump’s meeting with Russian diplomats, a level of access that was criticized by former U.S. intelligence officials as a potential security breach.

    The officials cited the danger that a listening device or other surveillance equipment could have been brought into the Oval Office while hidden in cameras or other electronics. Former U.S. intelligence officials raised questions after photos of Trump’s meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov were posted online by the Tass news agency.

    Among those commenting on the issue was former deputy CIA director David S. Cohen. Responding to a question posed online about whether it was a sound decision to allow the photographer into the Oval Office, Cohen replied on Twitter: “No it was not.” He declined to elaborate when reached by phone.

    The administration official also said the White House had been misled about the role of the Russian photographer. Russian officials had described the individual as Lavrov’s official photographer without disclosing that he also worked for Tass.

    “We were not informed by the Russians that their official photographer was dual-hatted and would be releasing the photographs on the state news agency,” the administration official said.

    As a result, White House officials said they were surprised to see photos posted online showing Trump not only with Lavrov but also smiling and shaking hands with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

    Kislyak has figured prominently in a series of damaging stories for the administration. Former national security adviser Michael Flynn was forced to resign in February over his contacts with Kislyak last year and over misleading statements about the nature of those conversations to Vice President Pence.

    The administration official said that “it is standard practice for ambassadors to accompany their principals, and it is ridiculous to suggest there was anything improper.” He added that White House rooms “are swept routinely” for listening devices.

    Russia has in the past gone to significant lengths to hide bugs in key U.S. facilities. In the late 1990s, the State Department’s security came under fire after the discovery of a sophisticated listening device in a conference room on the seventh floor, where then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and others often held meetings.

    Speaking to reporters at the Russian Embassy after his White House talks with Trump and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Lavrov did not hide his irritation with repeated questions about Moscow’s alleged meddling in the U.S. presidential election to boost Trump’s chances and damage Hillary Clinton’s.

    “I never thought I’d have to answer such questions, particularly in the United States, given your highly developed democratic system,” he said, according to a simultaneous translation of his remarks into English.

    Lavrov said that no evidence exists linking Russia to hacked Democratic Party emails released during last year’s election campaign and that the issue of Russian interference in the campaign did not arise in his meeting with Trump that morning.

    U.S. intelligence agencies said they concluded with “high confidence” that Russia tried to affect the outcome of the 2016 election. Lavrov at turns characterized such allegations as “noise” and a “humiliation” for the American people.

    “We are monitoring what is going on here concerning Russia and its alleged ‘decisive role’ in your domestic policy,” he said, according to a quote reported in Tass, which added a remark phrased less colorfully by the embassy interpreter. “We have been discussing specific issues, but never touched upon this bacchanalia.”


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    Before a separate, early-morning meeting with Tillerson at the State Department, Lavrov professed mock surprise when asked whether Comey’s dismissal had cast a shadow over his visit.

    “Was he fired?” Lavrov said, arching his eyebrows. “You’re kidding! You’re kidding!”

    He then jerked his head back in a dismissive gesture and walked away, shaking his head.

    In Moscow, the reaction to Comey’s dismissal also has been acerbic.

    “A Comical Firing” was the headline on the Comey story on Russia’s pro-Kremlin NTV news channel. In the report, Konstantin Kosyachev, a senior Russian legislator, said that the FBI director was let go “because he’s not supposed to act like he’s the president.”

    The main purpose of Lavrov’s visit to Washington was to discuss the ongoing conflicts in Syria and Ukraine.
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    Russia is having a good time with this "humiliation." The pictures are sending the message to the globe that the White House is compromised. It is chilling and a well played move. And Trump... I have no words.

    I wonder what Russians have on GOP leadership, since we know from last week's hearings that the RNC was hacked but didn't have their data dumped.
     
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  19. CometsWin

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    A day before firing Comey.

     
  20. NewRoxFan

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    Could our White House be any more embarrassing? "They tricked us." "That's the problem with the Russians -- they lie".

    White House furious after being trolled with Russia Oval Office photos
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/oval-office-photos-donald-trump-russians/
     
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