We have no restrictions whatsoever regarding the upcoming draft or future drafts except for the 2nd rounders we owe.
@justtxyank Seems like 70% of Joe Public feel the Rockets can trade the 16/17 1st round pick without leaving a Rockets 1st pick in the same year. If you can find it in print....I would love to see it. Thanks to whoever does. The 1st rounder we traded for Ty Lawson in 15/16 leaves me to believe otherwise. But, I have been wrong before.
Ok I found what people are talking about trading two future picks. The technicality of trading immediately after the draft. Tap below. I stand corrected.
For the sake of discussion: moves geared towards summer transactions. [Harden/Bev/Gordon/Ariza/Dekker/Capela/Harrell/Ryno= $79 mil] +Koufos=$87.1 mil. [1] Bev/Gordon Harden/....?...(A) Ariza/Dekker Ryno (B) $19.6/ Harrell Capela/...?Koufos $8.1.....(C) C) Other options x (C) this summer: Nerlens *$5.85 RFA..Dedmon PO...Len RFA...Mason Plumlee RFA So if Koufos is the play x the Rox. The Rockets would have $13.9-$15.9M to play w/for lineup [1] [2] Bev/Gordon/Payton III Harden/....?.... Ariza/Gentile.......perhaps Dunleavy addition Harrell/Dekker (I project Dekker as a better PF than SF next year) Capela/Koufos B)Trading Ryno ($19.6 mil) bring in depth at back up SG/SF/Center. I still favor a Nerlens deal if the price is not excessive; because FA Centers are few. I believe the Rox could exceed the approximately $103 hard cap/+$4 mil apron to match Nerlens; but I like lineup [2] w/money to put at SG/SF/Center. ***i would not trade Ryno during this season. A) Tim Hardaway jr is a RFA this summer at approx $3.37 QO Possibly going after starting SF if no Nerlens. (all #'s per hispanosnba.com & approximations) *estimated qualifying offer for team having Noel at seasons end
What if we decide to go over cap like some of the contending teams chose to do? LOL I am just kidding winning sucks. Honestly though I don't think signing another huge name is as important as finding 2 more mid level guys who over perform. I would rather just have harden and a super deep team than rely on superstars. The reason rockets are doing so well this year is because everyone is out performing their contracts other than RYNO and Brewer. Pick up another Gordon and another Harrell type player and I would rather have that than another super star.
Just out of curiosity... Where are we now in terms of cap and where could we be after dealing, Ariza, for example?
We should have about 12 million in cap space as is, if we were to trade Ariza we'd have about 19 million in cap space. That being said if we're looking to open up cap I think Anderson is the clear candidate (he'd open a max), or even Lou (who'd also open up 19 mill) before we trade Ariza.
Thanks! Yeah, I agree that we should explore all options before making a decision on Ariza. 12 million could get a guy like Ingles to backup Ryno or whoever. Will be interesting.
I like Ingles just fine, but we need to be the team that finds Joe Ingles, not the team that pays him.
That would be one Jarrod Uthoff....But Dallas sewed him up already. Uthoff is going to be one of the best players of the 2016 class.
So 12 mill? After the draft and in free agency agree to terms with Hayward. Trade Lou for late first and no salary or non guaranteeds. Trade ariza for late 1st and no salary or non guaranteeds. Have 2 1sts and all our future picks in the asset pool for a Paul George trade. Paul George for Ryan Anderson/dekker/2 1sts/2 future hou 1sts Harden Bev George Hayward Capela Profit
What kind of deals would move Ryan Anderson for $0 in return? Even attaching a first - which buyers will recognize is a late first anyway? Not sure why a bottom feeder'esque team with cap space would want him. Though I do think given his semi-disappearing act this post-season, and his $18 million salary, he'd be the one you'd probably prefer to part ways with. And if your scenario is signing Gordon Hayward, for example, with the money, unless you feel really strongly about Ariza manning the PF position for a whole season, you'd have a pretty big hole at PF now, where at least Anderson nailed the one specialty to help make the offense work. While I'd love to bring Ariza off the bench, the reality is Hayward should hopefully take 50% of Ariza's minutes, and you have to pick your poison. And Ariza perhaps nets you a future pick in return. It's a tough one. Too late now, but really points home how awesome it would have been if both Gordon and Anderson signed for Gordon's contract. Rockets would have an extra $7 million in cap space this offseason. But market was market.
If I'm being serious i think Sacramento would be a clear buyer. Afflalos contract is only guaranteed for 1.5mill. Salary I think might work during offseason and you could probably get an asset from the kings possibly a 1st. This would get you around roughly 28mill I'm guessing. But that's under the assumption Hayward has told you he will agree. Ariza and Hayward is plenty good enough at the 3 and 4 spot splitting time on both with hopefully an increase dekker.
The Kings are an option, but I don't think a clear buyer, unless they just absolutely need someone ot spend money on, and the Rockets incentive them some other way. If I'm the Kings I'm not looking for players to take minutes away from seeing what Skal Labissiere can become. But perhaps. On the next point, Hayward played basically 0 minutes at PF this year, and in fact had almost half his minutes at SG. Ariza put in spot minutes, but I would not be comfortable with Ariza basically becoming the starting PF. Even if he could conceivably do it, at his age I think its an injury waiting to happen. I more than understand being underwhelmed by Anderson when he isn't hitting, but pulls that PF big out like few other PFs in the league can do. On the other hand, Ariza is the team's defensive stopper at any position other than point. But Hayward is a solid defender also - not great by any means, but solid. If it was just Ariza vs. Anderson as the going out party to make room for Gordon Hayward, I'd choose Ariza. Hayward is basically a much better version of Ariza at this point. But since Ariza being jettisoned alone doesn't get you the cap space, and now you're looking at Ariza AND Williams going out vs. just Anderson... it's a tough one.
I understand he hasn't but I think he could. The dynamic in Utah is different than here. They have Big's and we don't. I like Anderson tbh. I think he's a great scheme fit and provides immeasurable help to this team. Not only spacing but presence and chemistry. It's ariza+lou vs anderson and I would probably go Anderson. Again I think you could garner a 1st for each of ariza and a 1st for Lou so that weighs in also. Assets+anderson and Hayward or lou+ariza and hayward It's all intriguing and absolutely hypothetical fantasy at this point.
Absolutely. The fantasy is you just add Hayward or the like to current group of 8/9 guys. Which unfortunately just can't happen. And PG forcing a trade here... c'mon, that doesn't happen a ton, and even when it does - Melo to NY for example - the other team usually has some decent assets to send in return. Don't see anything the Pacers would want if they are losing PG from the Rockets. I could MAYBE... MAYBE see Blake Griffin really wanting to play for this squad. It's a really really really good offensive fit. And it seems by now everyone knows playing with CP3 isn't exactly all fund and roses. He's a demanding on court leader. So Blake could maybe say sign and trade me to the Rockets or I'll go somewhere else. And I could MAYBE see the Clippers actually saying ok, and taking Anderson + package in return. Anderson might actually work on that Clippers squad. He and JJ are good friends. And that gives them some of that spacing the Rockets had this year. I wouldn't want to give up Anderson AND another meaningful piece, so not sure who else the Rockets could add to get Blake to a number he wants. I wouldn't have said even MAYBE a few months ago and even still very hard to see Blake wanting to leave LA... but another tumultuous end to the season for them... And that would be exciting, though every year Blake gets injured it becomes less so.
