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Poppovich is exposing MDA and Moreyball

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheRealist137, May 5, 2017.

  1. chandlerbang21

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    apparently NENE is the only person without fear of taking the midrange J. Everyone else can only shoot a floater
     
  2. chandlerbang21

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    He couldn't even make it on the Pelicans roster come on bro
     
  3. Reeko

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    What more did u expect from this roster? People are acting like this team is some championship contender that's underachieving in the 2nd round. We were always the underdogs against SA, Parker's injury didn't change that.
     
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  4. Newlin

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    I have no problems with the system. But if you want to shoot threes, then get players that can make threes. The Rockets are only avaerage at three point percentage. Morey, I think is working on this. But, it make take some time.
     
  5. Swapshop

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    Agreed. I don't get why people think we have a great supporting cast. We aren't a sharpshooting team people think we are. Ariza, Anderson, ect can't hit wide open three's. When the opposing team is as wide open as we are, they nail it.
     
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  6. RyanB

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    People don't see from where the team came from, we were not supposed to be that good
    Harden and MDA made the MoreyBall relevant
    but it's too much to ask from a team that is having ONLY ONE SUPERSTAR
    There's a reason Morey ALWAYS LOOKS FOR THAT SECOND AND THIRD SUPERSTAR to play with Harden
    He has been saying it again and again; " to win in this league you must have at least 2 SUPERSTARS"
    SO STOP HATING AND SAYING DUMB THINGS
     
  7. WilliamGCash

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    Yo... that ship has sailed. What year are you in?
     
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  8. rm365

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    It's still a competitive series. A monster game from Harden and decent support ala game 1 and the series is tied.

    I say let the Spurs beat us from outside.

    Their only perimeter creator is Leonard.

    Protect the interior. When Aldridge and Gasol get going that is what opens things up for them and they are hard to stop.
     
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  9. stefanb

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    That is the most realistic and mature comment I've seen in a while.
    I didn't expect anything more. I'm just saying that this is the mentality of a lot of Rockets fans. I enjoyed watching the Chuck Hayes era more than this to be honest.
     
  10. tonyt8605

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    All will be forgotten after we tie the series today. Classic series of two really good teams. Besides I like a desperate Rockets team better than an overconfident one. Both 94 and 95 teams with through some harrowing experience.
     
  11. glynch

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    Agree. Let us see what happens when we start having all the old ring chasers and ex All-Stars like Gasol and even Aldridge the number one free agent of his year, come to the Rockets before we declare that only Popovitch ball wins. BTW what about the Warriors who certainly play more like Moreyball than Popavitch ball.
     
  12. justtxyank

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    One team is full of hall of famers, former all stars ring chasing and at least one superstar.

    The other team has one superstar and a bunch of role players.

    #exposed

    We've known all along we didn't have enough talent to beat the best teams, that's why we went all in on the "drown them with threes" strategy. It was always a long shot stab at it. No one is being exposed. Morey was honest about what we were at the trade deadline when we got Lou.
     
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    Harden is above average as a shooting guard at passing the basketball. He is not efficient enough nor can he make all the passes needed for a championship point guard.

    Your statement that Harden is only effective with the ball in his hands is false too. Off the ball he has more gravity than any player in the Association. And Harden is way too smart and way to skilled to not be able to play off the ball very effectively.

    Harden needs to be the point guard when opponents go to their bench so he can totally shred them with our small ball line-up. And he needs to play off the ball at the defensive three and on the wing alongside another great playmaker/distributor that he shares possessions with on the starting unit. His assists would dip to about 8. His turnovers would drop to four or less. His scoring would increase by 4-6 ppg. His offensive efficiency would go even higher. The team's offense and defense would both be better. And we'd be closer to a championship.
     
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    It's a common misconception that assists by themselves equals great point guarding. The things that Conley and Chris Paul do affect the other teams rhythm and ability to guard, when to slow it down when to pick up the pace.

    Harden's assists come from driving and kicking, and not much else: and pop knows that harden is basically going to straight line drive and kick out, and he has his defense waiting on it. Harden is a shooting guard playing point guard.
     
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  15. Daddy Long Legs

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    So many gratuitous shots from you lately lol
     
  16. dmoneybangbang

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    Our offense is flexible. Our biggest issue is settling for bad shots and not moving the ball around. It was this way with McHale and is the double edge sword of Harden.
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Look, Dmo would have helped, but.....it is not really about DMo, it is about a player with his skillset, or similar skillsets which offer a differentiating look to the Spurs when they lock in on our 3s and clog the lane.

    We have lost to teams all yeah who have this combination, Utah, Miami, and now the Spurs etc....

    It would be nice to have a little different LOOK to go to when they cut off plan A...

    If you don't like DMo...fine, what about Scola? We could have added him for nothing and he could be midranging AND shooting 3s....

    We just need something a little different to give this team a Plan B, when Plan A is not working.

    DD
     
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  18. dmoneybangbang

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    Our offense is about efficiency, if you are a good mid range shooter then you take that shot.

    I think too many on this forum assume too much about how we play and have this black and white view.
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I don't we don't run sets for a midrange shot, Harden is a better midrange shooter than he is a 3pt shooter, but that shot has vanished from his game.

    We are not disciplined enough to play a smart variety game, we go for that big home run too often...while the Spurs take the smart shots.

    DD
     
  20. dmoneybangbang

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    I agree that Harden is a better mid range shooter but the point of Harden taking those 3 pointers is to spread out the defense. I think Harden needs to do less pull up 3s.

    Frankly I think Harden is a double edged sword. The same issues under McHale is still happening under MDA.
     

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