Comprehensive reporting by the mainstream media---connecting the dots---had led to the WH firing Gen Flynn. . today, mounting pressure has compelled the WH to contradict its previous false info that was provided to the public Kushner and Flynn Met With Russian Envoy in December, White House Says When first asked in January about Mr. Flynn’s contacts with Mr. Kislyak, the White House said that there had been only a text message and phone call between the men at the end of December, Today, the WH says that, last December, the following Trump team members met w the Russian embassador at the Trump Tower; the meeting was ~ 20 minutes long. Michael T. Flynn, then Donald J. Trump’s incoming national security adviser, had a previously undisclosed meeting with the Russian ambassador in December to “establish a line of communication” between the new administration and the Russian government Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and now a senior adviser, also participated in the meeting at Trump Tower with Mr. Flynn and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador. But among Mr. Trump’s inner circle, it is Mr. Flynn who appears to have been the main interlocutor with the Russian envoy — the two were in contact during the campaign and the transition, Mr. Kislyak and current and former American officials have said. But the extent and frequency of their contacts remains unclear, and the disclosure of the meeting at Trump Tower adds to the emerging picture of how the relationship between Mr. Trump’s incoming team and Moscow was evolving to include some of the president-elect’s most trusted advisers. The White House has repeatedly sought to play down any connections with Mr. Kislyak. Attorney General Jeff Sessions acknowledged this week that he had met twice with him during the campaign, despite previous denials. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/us/politics/kushner-flynn-sessions-russia.html?_r=0
Who cares? Story will not amount to anything. A few weeks ago the Trump admin was denying that anyone in the admin met with anyone from Russia. Trump himself uses strong declarative statements about NEVER doing any business with Russia and no one on his team having anything to do with them. We've essentially found out that everything he said about Russia is false and now his top advisor and son-in law have admitted to having a meeting? Won't matter. His supported to said the MSM was making it all up will just pivot to a new defense of him.
Well, maybe Kushner can try the same story that Flynn originally tried... that they were just exchanging Christmas greetings with their Russian friends. Oh wait, Kushner is Jewish. Never mind...
So the Attorney General, a lawyer, lied under oath to Congress. How many cabinet members have now lied to Congress? I've lost count.
Kushner and Ivanka seem to be the most sane, reasonable people in Trump's inner circle and voices that temper his wild reactionary moves. To what extent, I don't know. I would much rather him have The Orange One's ear than Bannon.
Liars gonna lie but at the end. . . . it doesn't even matter Demos will do nothing with it Repugs will act like it is meaningless American people will be screwed Rich people win . . .poor people lose If a poor person did this he'd be in jail now Rocket River
The "Demos," RR, will do what they can. It's difficult to do a lot when you don't control the House, the Senate, and the presidency. The media will have to do the heavy lifting. Come up with enough damning evidence of Trump's campaign colluding with a hostile foreign power in an assault on our elections, the foundation of our democracy, and Congress will have no choice but to launch a full scale investigation leading to indictments and impeachment proceedings. It happened with Watergate and Nixon, and it will happen with Russiagate and Trump, which is worse than Watergate. In my humble opinion.
What about the one who pleaded the 5th...where was your faux rage with Lynch?? This Sessions crap is truly the democratic parties attempts at throwing **** everywhere hoping something sticks...SO far...all of it has fallen right back on their faces.
No one in my campaign or on my staff had communications with Russia.....wait...what had happened was.....we had so many communications that we can't remember them all.
How has it fallen back? Sessions recused himself...Flynn resigned. But for the media doing its job, none of those things would have happened. Which, of course, is why the media is the "enemy of the people," amirite?
There isn't currently evidence that anyone from Trump's campaign broke the law. What I think has everyone's interest piqued is that Trump's folks are acting guilty. If the meetings were never anything shady, why keep lying about them? That's something a guilty person would do. That's someone who doesn't want the truth to come out would do. Why not do what Hillary Clinton did, sit down for 3-6 hours and answer all the questions and get everything out there? Thank goodness the media is doing their job and investigating the secrecy and hiding that the Trump administration is carrying out.
Nothing will come from this unless independent counsel is appointed and they have to testify under oath, then only if some how the NSA or some other agent happen to record some of those conversations, not very likely to happen.
People should care. The founding fathers were OBSESSED with foreign bad actors infiltrating our government, and wrote in an insane amount of legislation to try and prevent it. Trump might be innocent, but everything they do (along with the mounting CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence) just screams "We Are Guilty". American people should care very deeply about this, and demand his admin get ahead of this and come clean (including releasing his taxes). It only helps the Republicans and Trump himself to move past this quicker. As you said, it probably won't amount to anything in the end (I'm assuming you mean because the GOP controls the house, the FBI is going to go overboard to protect the GOP) because it will never be seriously prosecuted & will be buried along with every other major US conspiracy. (except Obamas Birth Certificate of course ) Yep. His supporters ARE IN. Trump said it best himself that he could shoot someone on 5th avenue with everyone watching and wouldn't lose a vote. I've actually had multiple Trump supporters tell me their newfound affection for Russia. So why should this still be covered by the media and discussed????..... Um well maybe because it is (if true) the biggest political scandal since Watergate... if not bigger. As far as the history of our country goes, (again if proven true), will be a massive part of our nations history, and could affect the way our country moves forward as a democracy. Its big F-ing news people. However, as mentioned before, its probably "JUST" going to become a major conspiracy theory alongside JFK, etc. Only with a huge amount of circumstantial evidence. Sort of like the OJ Simpson trial of political conspiracy theories because we all know the GOP which is our government currently will bury the Sh$# out of this. I'm not holding out hope or anything, but I'm glad its at least able to be covered by our media with the evidence we have. The conspiracy documentaries on Netflix years later will appreciate the footage & documentation. Just more evidence that the Trump fans are bought in if you need photo evidence: Spoiler: CPAC What the F&$% has happened folks?
i don't really even have a ton of faith in an independent prosecutor honestly. I personally think OUR GOVERNMENT will bury this one way or another. This will be one of those "what the public doesn't know can't hurt them" conversations among the powers that be likely including our intelligence officials. Point being.. I think they will find a way to get to the independent prosecutor IF one even does get to oversee the investigation. However.... Potentially the biggest story of the week, that got kind buried, was the NYT story about Obama's admin in the days before the inauguration, sending out copies of the intelligence to our allies intelligence officials. I think this story leaking out at the same time as Sessionsgate was no accident. I believe it was a warning from the Obama officials to the GOT (not really the Trump admin) to NOT be an accomplice here because they might not be successful in burying everything as now leaks can come outside of Washington. I do ultimately think that the government will find a way to bury this story, but if they aren't I feel pretty certain that it wont be an "Independent Prosecutor" that is exposing anything on Trump... I think we have the warning signal from the NYT story that its more likely to come from Britain or another Allie holding the evidence overseas. Smart move by the Obama administration.
I doubt there's any legal wrong doing as these sort of things are very vague. As you imply, the optics surrounding this make them appear guilty of something.
