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Time to play America's favorite game: Name That Player!

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Hey Now!, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. Hey Now!

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    Player A
    Minors: 1,913 PA; .303/.372/.542/.914
    MLB Debut Season: 153 PA; .141/.281/.242/.523

    Player B
    Minors: 1,203 PA; .316/.403/.576/.979
    MLB Debut Season: 141 PA; .164/.270/.262/.532

    Both players are current MLBers; one may - or may not - be an Astro. Got it? Go!

    (And if you saw my tweet about this on Twitter, please don't spoil it...)
     
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  2. Bear_Bryant

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    Oh I got player B:

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  3. Joe Joe

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    My guess is Reed and Rizzo. Though, it would not surprise me if HeyNow was pulling a fast one and putting one of the guys like Singleton (though don't think he was as good in minors as these numbers) that was great in minors, but never good in majors instead of Rizzo.
     
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  4. bobrek

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    Joe Joe guesses well
     
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  5. Joe Joe

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    Not a tough guess as Rizzo is the current example for being patient with young players, plays same position as Reed, and likely was a beast in the minors. Though, technically, if Bear is correct, I flipped them.
     
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  6. bobrek

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    Yeah, Rizzo is first and Reed second.
     
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  7. Hey Now!

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    Correct!

    Since his debut season, Rizzo: 3,051 PA .273/.366/.494/.861; three top 10 MVP finishes. There is a SMALL caveat: Rizzo spent his rookie year in Petco so *some* of ascension may have been park-related-ish. BUT.... point stands: young, power-hitting 1B with good eyes don't always arrive ready for prime time.

    If you want a reason to talk yourself into AJ Reed this year, there ya go...
     
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    Wasn't Rizzo a few years younger?
     
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  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    He's currently 27 so he was around 18 thru 22 in the minors.
     
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  10. Hey Now!

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    Rizzo was ~ 15 months younger than Reed was - but totaled 700 more minor league plate appearances. It's a damn-near 1:1 match, all things considered.
     
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  11. Hey Now!

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    And, BTW, it's ultimately predictative of absolutely nothing. It's just an interesting counter to any notion that the book has been written about AJ Reed.
     
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  12. Joe Joe

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    By itself, it isn't predictive. Some projection systems will be based on similar players (i.e. Historical comps). Rizzo's production is likely one of many that Reed's projections are based on, but it is likely the high end outlier.
     
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    Is the answer Casey Candaele? If not, go screw.
     
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    God the Padres are stupid for trading Rizzo for Cashner.

    That is my worst nightmare. Letting Reed go because of our impatience for a #3-4 pitcher
     
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  15. Hey Now!

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    The dynamic of that deal was much different, though: two struggling teams trading struggling young prospects. And Epstein knew Rizzo (originally drafted him, IIRC).

    The Astros are certainly not irresponsible when it comes to trading prospects. And the names most often associated with them are, at least on paper, front-line starters.
     
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