Do me a favor...go up to one of your historian friends, or any of your academic fans, for that matter, and ask about the credibility of individual case studies as a means of arriving at a conclusion about anything excluding one person's opinion.
Individual case study: Clinton presidency. Clinton presidency leads to conclusion. Conclusion -> Clinton was corrupt, and a morally bad president.
That's funny, from my perspective, he was the best president in my lifetime (so far). And that is coming from someone who didn't even vote for his reelection. I think it bears repeating (since you seem to ignore the point no matter how many make it) that Clinton, at worst, committed purjery, whereas Bush lied to get America to go to war. How many American soldiers died because of Clinton's lie?
At worst?! Perjury is a felony, Andy. A felony! How in God's name was Clinton the best president of your lifetime? His foolhardy, naive foreign policy got us in the mess in the first place. For chrissakes, the guy launched millions of dollars of cruise missiles to deflect hearings on the Monica situation. He raised taxes out the ying-yang and put the domestic yacht building business out of business. He attempted to nationalize the nation's health care system, gutted the military, overextended the military on useless forays in the guise of "peacekeeping," allowed sensitive nuclear and rocketry technology to be sold to/stolen by the Chicoms in an obvious quid-pro-quo campaign contributions for our secrets deal. Clinton-era b.s. social engineering still plagues military How Clinton/Gore sold our satellite technology to the CHICOMS for campaign contributions Rich pardon case I could go on and on, but needless to say, he was one of most foolhardy, corrupt, downright evil presidents we have ever had who made used car salesmen seem downright respectable in comparison. We are better country without him in the Oval Office. Bush did not lie. No American soldiers have died because of his so-called "lies." American soldiers have died because we had to fight a war and in war, people die. It's a sad but true fact. I'm sick and tired of this BIG LIE that Bush lied. Just like with Clinton, you split hairs and rearrange phrases to suit your purposes, except this time you libs use it to go after a GOP president rather than protect a Democratic one.
You my friend are delusional. Pre-emptive war is an international war crime, bama. An international war crime!!! Connecting the dots between international war crime and high crimes and misdemeanors yields ... You get the picture.
Actually the war can be interpreted as ethical by the Just War theory. We analyzed it in my military ethics class.
LOL! Is this the one you meant, Nomar? An individual case study is citing one person's experience, not citing experiences about one person...as such, what I was saying was that bamam saying " All the historians I know are __________, therefore historians are _______." is a ludicrous basis for a conclusion, as any academic will tell you. It is an extremely limited perspective, and suceptible to individual bias...which is why you will never see an individual case study used as the basis for any wide reaching conclusions about anything other than individual opinion. Dumb?
It is not. Grow a brain. International war crime? Show me the code. We had just cause to engage in said pre-emptive war. Why are you taking the side of an evil dictator? Now that man is guilty of war crimes, but Bush? Give me a break, you guys are damned delusional. You people really, really make me laugh.
And it's not just the historians I've met. I've read a ton of history books and guess what.......most seethe with leftist bias, making most historians, ding, leftists. Easy to make the connection there. Remove your head from the sand. Most historians and others in academia on your side, unfortunately. The right-wingers of the world are out actually earning a living in the private sector. Go figure.
Show me the code. We had just cause to engage in said pre-emptive war. The US helped write that code to check communism way back in the day. You can chose not to believe it, if it is inconvenient for you. Just cause? That is right; GWB told Saddam "disarm or we will disarm you" (that is when GWB did not screw up the line). Oh but wait, Iraq appears to not have the WMDs afterall. Our bad!!!
Not had WMDs? I guess all of those Kurds and Iranians who died from mustard gas were killed by nothing. I guess all those attempts to build nuclear reactors and build a giant cannon that could shoot nuclear projectiles over to Israel were for no reason entirely except to make sure Saddam had enough juice to power his palaces and have something to shoot political prisoners out of the country with. I guess all those centrifuges and precision machine tools and advancing tubing was for a great sno-cone maker, eh? We are finding buried MIG airplanes, tanks, centrifuges, and hiding scientists all over a country the size of Texas. We will find something. It is so typical of you liberals. You always find something to whine about. First we were going to lose thousands of troops because of WMD used in the "ring of death" around Bagdhad. Then the U.S. was at fault because a few bits and pieces of minutiuae were taken from the Iraq Museum (and returned). Now Bush lies because we haven't found WMD after a few months of looking while at the same time trying to fight off all the Islamist whackoes who have filtered into the country. Give me a break.
I understand what you mean. You are saying that he was making a generalization. But I think individual case study means something different from what you are saying.
