Why do you guys bother with the far right supporters?

If people falsely accused people of being murderers like they do the varying types of bigotry then that might be one thing. However, you know they don't so this is just stupidity cluttering up the thread. Thanks for trying though.

 

Your response sucks as usual.
Try to process: when someone is called a "racist" or "bigot," it might be true. Then you say "you are too!" but it's not as clever a response as you think it is.

 

Just bumping this because it got buried too quickly.

 

No it didn't. You just couldn't deal with the responses to it, so you're hoping for new ones.

 

Creating the label "regressive left" is hypocritical when speaking out against labeling, but both sides understand the power of symbolism and tribal pigeonholing. He's also clearly preaching to a certain audience by alluding to the idea that Christian, white males are considered evil by the left. I'd say it's more evil to appropriate Christian persecution in order to shroud oneself with political legitimacy.

Anyways, universities dis-inviting speakers is a form of censorship, and it's a spineless display by those admins that rewards any reaction by its protestors with a punitive response against the speaker. On the other side, those protestors are well within their right to assemble. As much as I think Westboro protestors are sick and un-Christian, they have a right to protest.

Maybe people will play nicer when they realize how quickly and violently a pendulum shifts. For some that just means to win, and win decisively and permanently...right before the pendulum shifts.

I wish schools invested more in civics and political science earlier and more often. It's a shame both sides practice censorship in earlier education with the words, books, and facts they choose for curriculum. We are not a nation of free thinkers, and the sooner we accept that the source for garbage education is not a partisan reason, the better. One side's delusion is equally propped up by the other's.

Liberalism is hard. Diversity is hard. None of these are one-time investments like technology. Maybe it's good that Trump is challenging Americans on whether they want to trash the society they have now or do more to keep it.

 

Try to pay attention, I never said "you are too!". Go back and check if you like.

When someone calls anyone anything it "might be true" and if people go around calling people things frivolously, eventually it won't have any weight anymore even if it happens to be one of the instances that it is done accurately. There's so many people who throw around accusations of racism and bigotry falsely that people don't take it seriously anymore. At this point if you are accusing someone of racism or bigotry it's more likely that you simply disagree with something they said and you aren't intelligent enough to debate the issue than it is the person is actually racist or bigoted.

 

The video is just smear tactics and propaganda.

The one thing worthy of debate is whether someone should be forced to serve people as a business if it is against their religion.

The problem with allowing that is that religions are not defined entities. And it opens the door to discriminate against anyone for any reason. Jews could say no to Muslims, Whites to Blacks, Blacks to Whites, Muslims to Christians - all under a pretext of religious objections.

People say these are private businesses, and that is true. But all business make use of taxpayer dollars to operate as a business. I wouldn't want a homophobic person to have to cater a gay wedding anyway, but there are ways out of that other than changing the laws.

 

http://www.zwilo.com/who-predicted-the-rise-of-the-populists-populism-richard-rorty/

IDK where to put this so..here..

 

Nothing is as funny as a white supremacist trying to explain how he's not a racist. Bump it again.

 

When I advocate a Muslim ban, conveniently forget David Duke's name and give white supremacists cover, talk about sexually assaulting women, and call Mexicans rapists then you can call me a racist, Islamophobic, sexist bigot. Until then you're just a sociopath with too much time on your hands.

And BTW, you're the guy that when a federal judge ruled that Republicans illegally and intentionally violated people's voting rights based on race disagreed with their findings. You called anyone that disagreed with voter ID laws partisan morons despite the judge's finding that it was Republicans who tailored the law based on race. Not long after, North Carolina was also found to have tailored voter ID laws based on race. So it's more than troubling that you can't stop running your mouth, like a fat kid that can't stop eating cake.

 

Actually I can call you that now if I want no matter what I may or may not have to back it up. It's certainly never been a prerequisite for it to be true in the past before people throw those words around. Anyway, I fully expected you to lash out like a child rather than understand what I was saying. You're nothing if not incredibly predictable.

I suppose I would amend my previous statement about voter ID, if you disagree with those laws you could just be a really stupid person as an alternative to being a partisan hack. Thinking that it's unfair to ask ID to vote yet fully appropriate to ask ID to buy a pack of cigarettes or write a check is a special kind of stupid if the belief is true and not just fed to you by others who do your thinking for you.

 

The only thing in your post that I disagree with is the last sentence.

 

Thanks for affirming your schmuck status in such a convincing fashion. Reminds me of that time you said black people are discriminated against in hiring because of their stupid names, not because of their race. I've rarely encountered anyone as obtuse and lacking in basic human characteristics.

 

That's how funny conservatives have gotten. White supremacists are using "shout racist" memes to give themselves a little more social acceptability. LOL

Keep trying to mainstream your white supremacy bro. Good luck.

 

I was not talking about racism in that post, neither was the video, yet you screamed racist. If there was ever a more appropriate time to call one on the overuse of that term, that was it.

 

So you are a racist, just not in that post. So when you previously asked if some places would be better off colonized by white people again you were just espousing the curiosity of middle America, the mainstream regular Joe, the red white and blue American. Yeah.

 

I had no admission, that's irrelevant from the topic of the thread. That's the last thing I'll say about that itt to not derail the discussion further.

 

Right, because there is no such thing as a racist. They are like bigfoot.

 

Thanks for the reply, sirbaihu. Agree on the semantics...it was more the left's take on the content that I was interested in. It does seem like there is agreement that the video does represent a fair portion of the left now. I see it as similar to the religious right aspect of the conservatives. That seems to have dwindled lately, but how long that took is something the left should really consider, IMHO. The problem with the more extreme elements of either side is that the candidates need to cater to that view to get through the primaries, pushing the whole party towards the edge, and away from the center.

Also to InvisibleFan, who seemed to share mostly the same sentiment.