Also, if you get Ibaka now, you can stay above the cap in the summer and still have the full MLE ~8M to add more talent as well. Trying to get Ibaka in the summer (or another player of his ilk) would mean the Rockets would have to strip away role players to get cap room. How about keep the role players and add to the core? Just a perspective.
I'm in this camp. IF they want Ibaka, they should trade for him and operate above the cap in the offseason. If you try to sign him in the offseason it means that's your only notable move. Trading for him now means you have the full MLE to add another role player to the team.
I think that's a good road to follow, but i was thinking, what kind of player we'll be able to sign for that amount (8M)? I mean, guys like Mahinmi and Biyombo just signed 16/17Mx contracts...as today there's only one name i can think about and you already know it
Have you seen Ibaka's 3 ball stats in his last three playoff seasons? He doesn't have to be as good of a 3 ball shooter as Anderson IMO but he's knocked them down when it counted and probably much more than Anderson ever has.
Uhhh, literally no. Anderson is light years better than Ibaka at 3pt shooting, anywhere, any time, any place. Anderson is hitting 40% of 7 3pter's in 30 minutes. That is elite. Anderson might hit more 3pters this season than Ibaka has hit in 8 years. It's not close, it's not debatable, it's not stylistic, it's not about the time, it's not about the level of competition. Ryan Anderson does only one thing well and that's hit 3pters and he is incredible at it. Ibaka is better at virtually everything else except FT shooting, but Anderson is a much much much much better 3pt shooter. In the playoffs, if there was a 3pt shot, you would give that shot to Ryan Anderson and not Serge Ibaka. Every single coach would do that. Every single unbiased playmaker would pass it to him. I know we really want Ibaka, but let's keep it together and not get carried away.
Anderson / Ibaka is not an either/or proposition. Your choices are: No trade, no free agency Anderson + Brewer + KJ + 1st round pick + Harrell + Decker + No MLE + Some cap space to spend elsewhere Trade and resign Anderson + Ibaka + Maybe 1 of Harrel /Decker left + MLE to spend elsewhere No trade, free agency (Use first to dump Brewer for cap space) Anderson + Ibaka + Harrell + Decker + No MLE Choice 3 looks the best to me, personally.
Report: Rockets show interest in Ibaka, others http://amicohoops.net/nba-rumors-houston-rockets-serge-ibaka-mario-chalmers-jarrett-jack/ Calvin Watkins of ESPN revealed Wednesday that the Houston Rockets have shown interest in free-agent point guards Mario Chalmers and Jarrett Jack as possible backups for James Harden and Patrick Beverley. Watkins also writes that the Rockets have shown “some interest” in trading for Orlando Magic power forward Serge Ibaka.
"AmicoHoops" SMH. As for Ibaka, I know this, if the Rockets get to the 2nd round I sure would love to have Ibaka to throw at LMA. I have flashbacks when all the Rockets could do is throw TJones and DMo at him and watched them get destroyed.
So Ibaka shot 45% from the 3pt line in the playoffs last season and he's chopped liver compared to Anderson LOL. Ibaka is a heck of a 3pt shooter and he is more proven in the playoffs all day when the cards are on the table than Anderson ever has been. Anderson for his career in the playoffs has shot .355 from the 3pt line and .345 FG and Ibaka has shot .427 from the 3pt line while shooting .513 FG. In the playoffs I'll take Ibaka all day over the unathletic Anderson in shooting the 3 ball.
Agree with mathloom here. Ibaka is not a replacement for Anderson. He's a replacement for Capela. The type of player we would need to replace Anderson with would be a player such as Jared Dudley, Ersan Ilyasova, and Doug McDermott. Those are guys that can all catch-and-shoot on par with Anderson.
Also agree that Ibaka is the Capela replacement. Anderson's gravity is too important. I could see an end game lineup of Beverley, Gordon, Harden, Ariza, Ibaka though.
I think Ibaka could be in a 3 man PF/C rotation with Capela and Anderson. I don't view him as a Anderson replacement or Capela replacement. Ibaka is a mediocre rebounder for the center position, swapping him out for Capela would kill our already weak rebounding. All 3 together could be pretty killer though. Only problem is, down the line we'd likely end up having to paying to 60+ mill for 3 front court guys who aren't stars.
OH! What happened to your boastfulness about 3 YEARS OF ELITE SHOOTING from Ibaka in the playoffs? I guess you thought I wouldn't look it up and call you on your BS cherry picking of stats? First of all, Ibaka took 3.8 attempts last season. Before that, he didn't even take 1 a game, though he shot well @ AN INCREDIBLE 0.8 attempts per game. Anderson shot 42% (on 3 attempts) and 40% (on 6 attempts) in his last two playoff stints. His 35.5% playoff average is HEAVILY weighed down by his first playoff appearance back in 2009-2010 where he hit 28% and played his most playoff games. You know this, that's why you childishly decided to compare his career playoff average to Ibaka's best playoffs. You know, even with that said, Anderson has hit 35.5% of 3.2 attempts, while Ibaka has hit 42% of just 1.1 attempts. In case that math is difficult for you, almost 3 TIMES more attempts for Anderson. Good job picking Ibaka's best ever playoff performance and pitting it against Ryan's average. Great analysis! GUESS WHAT! Ibaka shot better in the playoffs last season than STEPH CURRY OR KEVIN DURANT DID ON AVERAGE IN THE PLAYOFFS OR IN ANY INDIVIDUAL POST SEASON THEY EVER PLAYED IN!! And here we are, people all over the world, stupidly believing that Curry and Durant are some elite 3pt shooters. F*CK ME RIGHT. Someone needs to contact the league office, the 3pt contest is RIGGED!! This is not even mentioning that Ibaka was playing with Durant and Westbrook on an elite Thunder team when he was taking his 3's. Anderson's first playoffs was with prime Dwight, and the rest of his teams have been mediocre at best. You are acting like Anderson making 1,123 of 2,955 3pters (38%, which is incidentally the same as Ibaka's best ever regular season performance) in his career is less significant than one post season run by Ibaka. That's laughable. Read those numbers again. 1,123 of 2,955. You can BELIEVE whatever you want, you can believe in unicorns too if you like, but Anderson is a better 3pt shooter. I don't like to go on the offensive, but you intentionally cherry picked stats for your mythical argument and tried to deceive everyone. That's not cool.
Listen Mathloom you don't know you're basketball as much as you think you do LOL. I'd still take the proven Ibaka who doesn't force the 3 ball over Anderson and I put down Ibaka's career 3 ball average in my prior post and didn't cherry pick like you said LOL
