Why do you guys bother with the far right supporters?

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/...er-chaos.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

Please provide a link for your claim. Homeland security was confrwed after the signing which lead to rushed situations were customs agents at airports had no ****ing clue what the **** was going on.

What Trump is doing is unprecedented. The most worrying concern regarding him is how small his inner circle is and how he doesn't reach out for advice outside this inner circle.

 

A couple of significant problems with the above. First, Trump is on pace to blow right by all Presidents WRT EOs. But where were you when the right win was claiming Obama was an imperial presidency.

Second, and more important, the right wing talking point of Trump's immigration ban being just like what Obama did as President has already been thoroughly disproven a number of times already. Happy to provide you links if this is news to you.

Trump has largely invented his own war on the media. Most of the problems he has had have been the results of lies, or if you prefer, "misstatements" he and/or his spokespeople have said.

Second, I believe "Homeland Security" (whoever that person is) has said at best they were aware of early drafts. But if you have a quote from General Kelley saying he wrote large parts please share.

Third, the very fact that a Trump supporter like yourself can at best describe Trump's immigration ban as "rushed and poorly worded" speaks volumes. I would sincerely hope that something that effects so many people would not be "rushed and poorly worded". Perhaps the administration should have thought twice before rushing a poorly worded EO, just as a way to appease the right wingers...

 

You are making stuff up. Obama didn't do what you are saying - you are just reading your alt-right stuff. You attack me for what you are guilty off - no facts. None. You post nothing. And you call me a caricature of the left when I am actually moderate. Even Cometswin and Sam Fischer can tell you that as I have argued with them many times before. But you are such a partisan hack you can't even see that.

I suggest you look in the mirror and expose your own hypocrisy. And when you are ready to actually put some links and facts in your post, we can have a debate. Until then, this lazy debate of yours where you make outrageous claims with no support must come to an end.

 

I'm sure the book has bias. I'm also quite certain I referred to the reporting done by WaPo, ABC, and the NYT that was spurred by the book. Certainly, you can't be claiming they have bias against Clinton as well?

 

I'm trying to get to the heart of this. What exactly could I say here (beyond espousing the exact same beliefs you have) that would convince you and Sweet Lou that I'm a normal dude who doesn't hate any specific groups?

 

For some, and I can't really see who you've been responding to for the most part so that tells me it's the worst of the worst, there's nothing you can do other than have the exact same beliefs they have that would convince them that you aren't some hate filled racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, bigot. That's just the way they see the world, either agree with them 100% or you are some kind of awful person. There's not much point in trying to reason with people like that, they are beyond help.

 

The NY Times has been hyper critical of Clinton and broke the email server story. I think you just make things up and don't know the facts.

 

I'm curious...why?

 

Yes, you've made it quite clear that's what you think. What you haven't done is back that thinking up, offer anything besides insults, and typify the 'basket of deplorables' attitude that is why people felt left out by the previous administration and backed Trump in this one. In short, you are the stereotype for why Trump is now President. Congratulations! You must feel so proud!

 

It is a fact that the NY Times broke the Clinton email server and it is widely known amongst anyone who reads the NY Times (not you apparently) that it has dogged her critically for the past 10 years.

Where are your facts? you never post any and yet you attack others who do. What a low-life hypocrite you are.

Instead of engaging in respectful debate, you once again act like Bobby and go on your little alt-right tirade. You have fallen far.

 

He thinks you're dumb. A smart guy wouldn't have to ask.

 

How about you? Where did you go to college?

 

Where did you go to college?



Where did everyone go to college?!

 

Don't steal Sam's lines. We already have trouble keeping him grounded. You start imitating him and he becomes an irrational confidence volume shooter rather than a sniper. You don't want that.

 

Because he couldn't think of a way to refute what you said so he's hoping he can end conversation by poisoning the well with ad hominem attacks instead of actually addressing what is being discussed.

 

It is funny, I think you and I have the exact same ignore list. My experience here has improved significantly.

 

Think of how much better your bbs experience would be if you put the entire D&D on ignore!

 

It's funny how these people with extensive ignore lists like to attack people they have on ignore, then whine about ad hominem attacks.

 

So much projection.

 

Sometimes I don't think people understand that far left and far right extremism (<--correct term btw) is quicksand and continues to mitigate any progress this country makes.

Why do I bother (with either side) because if I was drowning I would want someone to throw me a rope. About 99% of the time they just say OH I GOT YOUR ROPE HAHA! but it's worth it that one time where they let the guard down and actually agree with something that isn't tyranny (<---also correct term btw).