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FRAN BLINEBURY: What's a team to do? Cut cord with Griffin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by vtkp99, Oct 28, 2003.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    :D
     
  2. barbourdg

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    If Griffin is not exteneded (by Friday), does that make him a restricted free agent or unrestriced free agent next year?
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Les is divorced, it is HIS message on those boobies.

    DD
     
  4. saleem

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    The Rockets roster has 14 players mentioned on it including the 3 injured players. Eddie isn't on the list because he is suspended.
     
  5. Jeff

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    Just for clarity, Les has been divorced from his wife, Nanci, for almost 2 years now and the Animals Have Rights shirts and PETA ads were his ideas, not hers.
     
  6. Jeff

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    DD beat me to it, though I like his version better. :D
     
  7. bigboymumu

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    Blinebury is and will always be one of my least favorite writers. I question the timing of this article. Blinebury must know something that we do not because he does not have the balls to write such a story without ... Why wait until now to ...

    I agree with getting rid of the guy if he is guilty of what we fear. However, we do not know the TRUTH yet. How about writing a story about a kid that may be reaching out for help? I know why! I wonder who reads the Chronicle.

    Huh, I love his Lugo reference! What a joke! The Astros never really wanted Lugo. It was an easy excuse to get rid of him. Do you really think the Astros would of done the same thing to Bagwell or even Blum?

    I say give the kid a chance after everything blows over. Make a sound decision then!
     
  8. Nero

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    This article by Blinebooby is one of the worst pieces of garbage I have ever had the misfortune of reading.

    He takes the typical liberal viewpoint, and completely disregards the concept of innocent until proven guilty, evidenced by the existence of the article in the first place. He presumes there has been some kind of an abuse of a woman, and upon that he bases the entire editorial.

    Mr. Blinebooby, the ONLY 'presumption' we do in THIS country is the presumption of INNOCENCE.

    Only a court of law can declare the man to be guilty. Not you. Not anyone in the media, no matter how hard you try.

    And yet you cavalierly throw around the idea that we all are not 'outraged' enough, specifically using as examples two cases, NEITHER OF WHICH HAS EVEN BEGUN TO APPROACH A GUILTY VERDICT.

    I say, the only people about whom we should feel outrage is people like you and your ilk, those who seek to cause the utter disintegration of the Constitution.

    SHAME on you fran.
     
  9. CriscoKidd

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    Or, for the layman, Griff's contract still counts against the salary cap even while he's suspended.

    Him not getting money while he's suspended just means Les doesn't have to actually pay him despite the guaranteed contract.

    So really this is just a conspiracy for Les to save more money. That cheap b*stard!!! :D




    Oh, and it's pretty ridiculous to entertain the idea of cutting griff at this point. As of yet, he is gulity of nothing. Holding a roster spot for him hampers us in no way(what, like we really need pig for the IR? :rolleyes: )
     
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    I remember some memeber here has a off the wall comment about "put it on a T-shirt" in one of those Griffin threads. Is that you Fran?

    Anyone remember who it is?
     
  11. JuanValdez

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    The funny thing is that right now Eddie is not being paid, but, if we were to cut him, he would be off the suspension list and would likely need to be paid his remaining money. So, Eddie stands to make more money by getting cut than by staying on the team.

    I don't think we should cut him though. I think this is something that, with some fortitude, he can bounce back from. I think everyone would be better off if the Rockets took care of him, rehabilitated him, and used his talent to win us championships. They may want to not extend his contract though. He would be unrestricted next offseason, but his market value will also be low. He might get a mid-level exception offer but no better than that. And, if the Rockets stay true to him during this rough patch, he'd be likely to reciprocate (giving us a talented and reasonably priced power forward for years to come). And, come next offseason, if he still hasn't made any progress we won't be stuck for an extra year. But, it would require that the Rockets made a real effort to help him while not extending the contract.

    I think Eddie needs a bodyguard. Not a posse, but a professional who will always be watching to be sure he stays clear of trouble. If he had one the other night, he wouldn't have assaulted anyone.
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    What is this assumption based on?
     
  13. Joe Fan

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    You sure about that? I concede they are now divorced but this t-shirt messaging idea came from way back when they were married. When Les was trading, Nanci was getting involved in "causes" with other socialites.

    Did you know that:

    ----Nanci runs the Animal Rights Foundation of Florida? And that her personally-appointed Director of Communications for that PAC, Nicolas Atwood, is a member of ALF and has been arrested more than once for ALF-related violence?

    ----Nanci personally donated over $225,000 toward the passage of a constitutional amendment that gave legal protection to pigs in Florida? This came out of an appeal to the Florida Supreme Court that she personally supported seeking to extend human rights to pregnant hogs.

    ----Nanci forced a meeting b/w David Stern and PETA to try and get the league to use a synthetic ball? She also donated an autographed synthetic-leather basketball to be given as a prize to the winner of PETA online quiz on vegetarian athletes.

    I admit Les supports the vege movement too. Together they have donated a lot of money to some violent animal rights groups. But this just gets to the usual hypocrisy of limo-liberals, and does not have much to do with basketball. Let's just agree Naci is a vagitarian and move on.
     
  14. SCOOTER T.

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    Cut your losses and waive Eddie. I don't care how great he's going to be... Right now... he's a bad human being. If I didn't show up for work they would say bye bye!!! The Rockets determine when to show up for work, not Eddie. I would also ask Eddie for back pay!!! He as of yet as not proven to be an NBA player.
     
  15. Rockets2K

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    dont you understand??? If he is released, we still must pay him...the CBA requires it.

    that is 2.3mil down the drain. They have punished him for not sowing up for work. He is on the suspended list, which means he does not get paid as long as he is on said list.

    It is in the Rockets best interest to keep him on the suspended list until such time as we can either trade him (unlikely) or he quits (not likely either). If he never gets his stuff straightened out, then the Rockets keep him on the suspende list and not pay him till his contract expires, at which time they simply dont resign him and let him walk..

    one last thing....he is a bad human being huh?

    says who?

    we do not have all the facts yet, only one side of the story....in this country..everyone is Innocent TILL proven Guilty.

    not Guilty TILL proven Innocent.

    if he turns out to be guilty, fine...we get rid of him...but until that is proven, the Rockets are doing the right thing.
     
  16. mulletman

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    i would rather see the chronicle cut blinebury before the rockets cut griffin. because actually getting paid to write the crap he does seems like a bigger crime than anything eddie has been accused of.
     
  17. Yetti

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    Exactly my thinking! It sounds to me that Blinebury has been shown the front door by JVG and this is his way of getting back at him and the Rox!
     
  18. Jeff

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    Actually, I know it for a fact. They are BOTH very strong animal rights advocates and Les continues to support those causes and the idea of placing slogans on t-shirts and ads in media guides.

    A lot of blame gets passed off on the former Mrs. Alexander and, no question, she was (and I'm sure still is) an easy target. I also know all the rumors about their dislike for the rodeo when Les bought the team.

    I just don't think it should be any shock that Les is just as strong an advocate as his wife is/was. It is just who he is whether we agree with him or not.
     
  19. thadeus

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    Wow, no wonder Les divorced her. That's scandalous! I wonder if she wears flannel.
     
  20. wizkid83

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    So we punish him by cutting him and paying him, while suspending him and us witholding his pay we are rewarding him?:confused: :confused: :confused:

    Just love your logic.
     

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