[#bemorelikeeurope] Swiss arrest Tibetans to appease Chinese core leader Xi Jinping

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What the hell's stupid about that? China's a very big and serious topic.

Yes, Tibet is another of their territories that has an urge for liberation along with the Uiyghurs and Hong Kong. They had Tibetan Buddhism's number two guy, the Panchen Lama, kidnapped when he was a baby and replaced him with a child of two of their party members. It's also notable that the Panchen Lama is the one that chooses the next reincarnation of the Dalai Lama.

China is evil. I can't emphasize that enough. Between keeping territories, human rights abuses (and I mean this in the most barbaric of senses), and expansionist policies, that country has a lot of dark stuff going on. After things are stabilized in the West, hopefully China can be properly addressed. In the near future, they have to be taken apart from Russia. Even Putin considers them a long-term threat after they reverse engineered their Su-37.

 

Lololol.

 

I lived in China several times, visited Tibet in 1998. It was an awesome place to visit but it was also had a serious occupation atmosphere, with tension between the Tibetans and mainland China, which is Han majority. Xinjiang in the west also has that kind of tension between the Uyghurs and the Hans. China is choking out Tibetan life and culture without a doubt. It's about like the native Americans.

 

Yet you adore Russia

 

What does this have to do with detaining protestors past their allowed time of protest?

 

It's funny how Americans assume other countries have the exact same laws. Nordic laws of assembly aren't like American.

 

No I don't and those can't really be said about Russia.

 

Uh, when someone gives you a two hour permit and you violate it then you're held accountable. That's the same as the U.S. or any other country. It doesn't matter what they're protesting. If they were black people protesting Trump you'd call them animals and be happy about them being arrested. You dope.

 

You should've said so a while ago than doing ad hominem on the poster. And Tibet and China still have a lot of facets to be talked about regardless.

 

You're a white supremacist. Your entire belief system is an ad hominem. Really?

People get arrested for protesting in the US all the damn time. Cohete is on this stupid kick about people saying be more like Europe when it comes to certain things like health care, education, etc. and so whenever he finds something to rail about in Europe he puts his be more like Europe tag line. He's a troll, just like you are.

 

Despite your misleading title, the Swiss allow time allotments for the right to assemble and folks got arrested for going over the allotted time.

It's pretty clear you didn't know that and now are spinning it as some sort of "values" thing.

You got me there.

 

What makes Xi's visit interesting is not this minor event. But rather the fact that traditionally PRC sends their Prime Ministers to Davos but this year the chairman comes. This is yet another evidence that Prime Minister Li Keqiang is now pushed to the side by Xi

 

describe that tension, give eg

in the same manner that China, in 1979, had started to choke out the non-Mandarin-speaking locals' life (farming/fishing) in Shenzhen.

Now---w hi-rise building, factories, rapid transit system, universities, hospitals, banks, stock exchanges, TV stations, etc.----has become the19th-ranked financial center in the world. Mandarin has replaced the local dialect as the dominant language.

at the outset, there was tension between the locals and the new arrivals. but they have adapted. ​

 

What people want the US to do whatever China instructs? Please do tell because many people are talking about the fact that you're deranged. Many people. Many.

And damn you for making me to appear to defend those commie Chinese. Damn.

 

just a question for everyone here:

why all the hate for China? what defines china as 'evil'? their communisty government or just plain hatred for the chinese people (racism?)). I am of Chinese by heritage, growing Up in NZ, it almost a given that China 'should' be considered evil and an enemy?

i for one is definitely not a supporter of communism....lets get that out there first...

but looking into china's recent history (last 200 years +/-), you really can't deny the efforts and achievements of the Chinese communist party.
since the 1800's china has been ravaged by foreign invaders (mainly Western....western values lol?), including america, from the loss of Qingdao, Hongkong , Macau to the purging of beijing and Tianjin, hindered by opium, the country basically lost a majority of its wealth, can't remember the exact number, it was ridiculous the amount of gold and silver that was taken by western invaders. Then the nationalist government came to power, with constant civil wars (mainly with the warlords surprisingly, not all that much fighting with the communists before WW2), then loosing Manchuria to Japan and Russia. Someone mentioned that the taiwanese government (nationalists) robbing china, its actually pretty much true. When the nationalists left china, most if not all wealth were taken from each area as they left. My great grandfather was a wealthy merchant from Shandong province, when the nationalists retreated, he was one of those that were basically forced to leave along with his wealth, leaving his wife and my grandfather to starve.

Basically when the communist government came to power, the country was an absolute mess. Obviously the communist government has done some ****ed up things, including the cultural revolution, Tiananmen Square (which till today i still believe were orchestrated by foreign powers, but still no right to kill students), corruption etc....but to consider it evil is kind of ridiculous. Looking at China right now, at least over the last 60 years, china moved form a starving country to a prosperous nation (the majority of its citizens at least).

I have traveled to China many times, both for business and for holidays, and have asked many people the same question: do you like the communist government and why do you not want democracy? It seems the majority of the answers are we want democracy but peace and stability is more important, although the government official are corrupt,but they are doing a good job economically.

I am not trying to convince anyone here, but just IMO, so many are against China is not because of all these 'righteous' reasons, but rather it is a threat to the Western dominance, the emergence of China as a world power is a threat to the dominance of America. who would want to live in a world led by asians right?

anyway sorry for the long post....

 

Well, for example: I talked to a monk who had been living in a cave for seven years, in his cave above a monastery. Because I was there, some kids were hanging around the mouth of the cave. The monk was very serious and secretive about avoiding letting the kids hear what he was saying about how the occupation by the mainland was destroying Tibetan monasteries.


Tibetan monks generally were wary of spies or impostors being fake monks in the monasteries.

I passed convoys of hundreds of military trucks, i mean miles long, on the road.

Tibetans don't like speakers of Mandarin, but they gave me a pass because I was a foreigner. The general attitude in '98 was, I was like a foreign correspondent who could use my camera to publicize the Tibetan situation. Tibetan women hawking jewelry were glad to talk **** about mainland Chinese.

Pictures of the Dalai Lama were forbidden and treated like gold.

It's too much to name. The division between Tibetan and Han was very clear in the city, and it was pretty much a lock that anyone who appeared Tibetan in dress was ready to express an active dislike for the Han Chinese.