I mean the role he would have on our team...in our system. He's not going to avg 25ppg on our team. He won't get the same volume of shots so we look at his shooting percentages. Gordon is a much better three point shooter. You could argue Butler's percentages would be better with us as he would probably get better looks. I just think Gordon is a much better fit for this team as a scorer. Not necessarily the better player. Not to mention how much would Butler cost? We would certainly have to give some core guys. A gamble if you ask me. *edited* I think our focus should be on a big man.
That will be tough. Any team could have an injury at any moment though. Im not hoping for one. Beat writers are joking by posting a totally green screen.....saying that will be the Korver shot chart while playing with LeBron and Irving.
And if this has any truth to it: Michael Scotto: Pelicans trade talks [for Millsap] include offering their 2017 1st rounder (protected), Philly’s 2017 2nd rounder (via Ish Smith deal), and salary fillers – via Twitter MikeAScotto I would think a similar deal from the Rockets would get it done.
I have a feeling this year is special. I don't mind putting our chips on the table and going after Tyson Chandler. Yes, our frontcourt may be a little crowded but we don't have a single glass-eating true 7-footer. Despite his age Tyson is having a VERY strong year, averaging 11.5 boards/game in just 27.5 minutes. We play this game to go for a chip. This group is as good as any. We can address our one true weakness without gutting the team. It would prob take Brewer and one of KJ/Ennis to get it done.
They aren't that far off. A healthy Gordon is top 5 SG IMO. He's leading the league in 3s made at 43% shooting an unbelievable amount and playing good D to boot. I know he can lock em down but we'd have to give up a lot more than we should.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=z5n6f7t Hearing Cavs gave up at least one first rounder for UFA to be Korver. So RFA to be Nerlens may require 1st/2nd(s). As far as I know the "Stepien rule" is still in place. Unable to trade consecutive 1st round picks yr to yr. Not sure if new CBA has altered that. Rockets could trade 16/17 1st if they had another. Rockets could swap 16/17 1st rounders. Pick up Hollis Thompson and the Rockets would be set.
I thought that the new CBA did change that rule. With the Rockets looking to be picking in the very late 20s, I would have no problem trading two of them. Even if Morey gave up that 1st for Noel, I wouldn't mind if they didn't match a prohibitive offer from another team in the summer. The move would strengthen the team this year without disrupting the rotation and would give us plenty of options and room to maneuver going forward. I think that's the type of deal the Rockets should be looking to make rather than the big splash.
Noel would be a great addition but, if we traded for him and don't resign him in the offseason. I think the trade would be redundant. You would probably be giving up a pick or two for a half year rental.
If you trade for Noel, you have to sign him this summer. He is going to cost 100M+ probably. You can't trade away those picks for a 1/2 year rental.
I don't know. It's still difficult to make the numbers work for Millsap. Ryan Anderson matches salaries pretty well, but that move would essentially underline, italicize, and mark in bold with large font that Morey is predatory as hell and would tell future free agents to stay away lest they be sent at midseason to some other location. Does Morey wants to go that route? You'd have to come up with about $15,000,000 or so in salaries (I believe) to get Millsap. Well, maybe more, because the Hawks would have to include nobody players in order to keep rosters at or near 15 players. And all of this presupposes the Hawks would be generous enough to take Corey Brewer off our hands.
If we didn't resign him in the offseason, it would only be because we had a better option. That's what I like about Noel, trading for him still gives us plenty of options moving forward. I like Chandler, but the cost should be higher and you lose significant flexibility for the next two years.
I agree. If the new CBA altered the rule, that's good to hear. Cavs looking for a backup PG. Standing Pat would be a mistake imo. Cavs are gearing up to go against Western teams. They are not concerned with the East or raw talent. They want to win now. Rockets fans need to ask if "we" (Rockets) are with them......or not?
I agree with you on how trading Ryno so soon & the optics of that move (that's why you don't see me placing Ryan in trade scenarios). But can I trade him this summer? Gordon costs a lot coming off the bench. Talks of upgrading the Rockets, it's often mentioned at PF. I don't know if the Rockets could have both Gordon and Ryno coming off the bench with their salaries. If the Rockets win it all (w/Noel), the Rockets probably would keep Ryno and match whatever offer Noel signs......exceeding the hard cap and apron. But if the Rockets don't win it all this year......in your opinion......can we trade Ryno this summer for cap space in pursuit of another target FA? Is it still too soon?
Noel is kind of the perfect storm for us. His salary is low now so you don't have to upend the team making salaries match. The cost will mostly be in picks. And those would be late round picks. Guaranteed contracts for raw projects or subpar players. Not exactly how you want to fill out the roster for a contender. Those spots need to go to veteran players. It's time for the Rockets to be the team signing ring chasers. Noel gives the Rockets the opportunity to evaluate the team again in the summer, see what other teams are going to offer him and decide if that is a direction we want to go or spend the money elsewhere. Either way, I don't think the Rockets really want those picks. Euro stashes are the same as a traded pick.