CIA: Russia manipulated the election to install Trump

Obama couldn't react any quicker

 

To reiterate what I already said, this shouldn't be used to argue that Clinton should be president over Trump, unless Trump knowingly participated in the cyber attack. And I see no evidence of that.

I know these attacks happen all the time, and I recognize the hypocrisy of the US calling foul when they do the same thing to others. That doesn't dampen my concern that it weakens our electoral process and we should be taking steps to analyze the problem and put in place safeguards against it. And I'm not interested in the political game of selecting politicians I disagree with and laying the blame for these attacks on them. Just find the problem and fix it.

It hurt the Democratic party's candidate this year. Next time, it could hurt the Republican party's candidate. But who the affected party is should be irrelevant.

 

With all due respect no one really cares about Hillary at this point. Russia hacked our country's democratic process. You just revert to bi partisan lingo as if it matters at this point. We as Americans got hacked by Russia and this is really the angle you take? Wake up

 

No, they didn't "hack" the democratic process, saying that implies that the actions of Russia determined or influenced the outcome of the election and that's simply untrue. I get that it's easier to blame Russia for Hillary losing the election than facing the reality of the situation.....but you aren't doing yourself any favors by ignoring the truth. Wake up.

Also, I don't think you know what "bipartisan" means or you absolutely wouldn't have used it in that context. What you meant to say was simply "partisan" which still doesn't apply to me given that I'm not a Republican, and I didn't support Trump.....in fact, I made it clear my preference was Hillary winning, but she was just far too unlikable and ran too terrible of a campaign to win. The "partisan" spin is that people didn't reject Hillary and the Democratic party, which is clearly what happened, it was just that Russia "hacked the Democratic process" and that's why they lost. That spin might make some people feel better, but it's counter productive.

 

Is your knowledge base really lacking to the point that you have to insert a random tweet with legitimacy you see as greater than yours? I'm sorry man, but that is just sad...

 

That would be an accurate point given that the person it was directed towards wasn't an uneducated dumbass.

 

Breaking news: foreign country tries to influence other country for its benefit.

 

Not claiming Russia pushed the needle. Never said Hillary would have won. We got hacked, you are still talking about Hillary. Wake up.

 

People get hacked all the time, do you think that's news? Were you crying yourself to sleep over the "fappening" hacks? How about the Sony hacks? The DNC getting hacked is no more notable than those. Wake up.

 

How is it that you know for a fact that it didn't shift the outcome? Is this based on some analysis of the voting results?

 

Incorrect. It did not hurt the DNC. The DNC hurt themselves this year. "Im sorry .... I got caught" is not a valid excuse and its exactly what you're arguing for. The DNC was unethical on several levels this year, specifically aiming to sink Bernie and colluding with the media several times. They got exposed. And how they got exposed is irrelevant. A person/group does not get the right to be unethical and then cry about privacy when they are exposed.

This is the litmus test; If Trump was exposed in the same manner for saying all the things he was accused of being, you'd be using the same exact argument I am using now.

As I also stated, the chances the RNC was compromised is pretty high up there. One way you mitigate the damages is by not doing/saying/putting damaging things out there in the first place.

 

Complacency. Wake up.

 

The DNC hacks were late in the game and were well after the email scandal and the "deplorables" comment which were significant factors in Hillary losing. In fact, name me one thing that came out during the DNC hack that people even remember? I guess there was the one line about having a public opinion and a separate private opinion, but everyone already knew Hillary was a liar so how does that "push the needle"?

 

Don't confuse lack of faux outrage for complacency. Should the US take steps to prevent future hacks if possible? Sure. Should a multi billion dollar organization like the DNC have better internet security? Absolutely.

Like I said, I feel no different about the DNC hacks than I did about the Sony hacks. Don't let your partisanship shape your view of these events.

 

Unless unethical behavior is a 'democratic process', you are correct.

The DNC is a private organization. So no, Americans did not get hacked.

 

flawless logic

 

Secret Russian hackers, fake news, white supremists, lazy students, blacks and women who didn’t get out to vote in critical states, voter fraud – how many straws can Democrats attempt to grasp as their beloved candidate metaphorically floats down the river?

Face it -- Hillary was a flawed candidate who felt the presidency was a box of chocolates that the nation owed to her.

Every time I think about it, I see “Bridge Over the River Kwai” in my mind’s eye. While British prisoners of war cheered their strait-laced colonel, I see Col. Sito (Obama and Hillary exchange places depending on who is bawling at the moment) hunched over in shame and shattered dreams.

Let’s move on. Hillary got more popular votes due to the voting in New York and California, but she must have forgotten that the electoral college is the king (or queen) maker. All the complaints and what ifs won’t change that – unless Democrats can convince 45 state legislatures to change the constitution. Oops, didn’t the Democrats wind up with only six state houses where they own majorities in both houses and the governorship?

Instead of all this teeth gnashing, Democrats would be better served finding younger candidates with fresh ideas that appeal to a broad spectrum of voters. Until then, remember, if you grasp at enough straws, you might be able to make a broom.

 

Why are you convinced I supported Hillary? How do you assume you know my affiliation? How will Russia be held accountable for tampering with the US election process? You propose doing nothing? This isn't the fappening. This considered espionage. Your answer is to take steps to be better protected next time. LOL. Don't you think maybe we should hold Russia accountable? Complacency.

 

Why are we arguing about this? Both parties are concerned about it, the only people who aren't are Trump cultists who think he does no wrong. (and it's likely he's done nothing wrong here)

I agree, let's move on and talk about Russia interfering in our political process.

 

Let me get this straight. In our country's 200+ years of history, you do not thing foreign governments and enemies did not have a preference on the leader being elected? Further, do you not think they've tried to influence every election in some sort? This is government manipulation 101.

The US has been doing this for the last 100 years. We have been VERY VERY OPEN about manipulating hundreds of elections and toppling regimes. Why are you baffled and ONLY NOW concerned about other countries are doing this to us? This has been happening since the beginning of time when organized governments formed. This is nothing new.

I strongly doubt the RNC has cutting edge technology that cost billions of dollars to protect a few emails. But you are right, the chances are they didnt give two ***** because it was not full of unethical behavior.